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2 Australian born served in Zulu War  - Anstey and La Trobe
1 who came when he was 6 years      - Creed Baker Russell

83 known Veterans emigrated to Australia, where possible boiographies have been done. Samuel Lotinga's daughter married into my Durnford family.  Some lived a very long life, quite amazing after what they went through.  Some commanded our forces in 1885, there are no doubt more who changed their names.

1. Thomas Arnold  2/4 K.C. Regiment of Foot
2. George Ashby       Frontier Light Horse
3. William Wallace Bell     Kaffarina Rifles      Biography with links to Hart Family
4. Robert Barnes
5. William Warren Berry
6. Charles Belcher      99th Duke of Edinburgh’s Regiment
7. William Berwick
8. Bugle Major J Best      Lonsdale’s Horse
9. Paul Berthold
10. George Billett   17th Lancers
11. Petty Officer Cornelius James Blacker  Served on “Hector”
12. Frederick Robinson Bowrey        Royal Artillery  Claimed to have  VC
13. Captain Charles James Brownrigg      “Euphrates”
14. Michael Burns   Frontier Light Horse
15. Lieutenant Charles R. Burnside    Cape Mounted Rifles
16. John Cannell
17.  Henry Walter Carpenter    17th Lancers
18. Douglas Dunn Carrick   Despatch rider  Zulu War
19. Frank Charles    Royal Artillery
20. John Charles Clifford    Baker’s Horse
21. Henry Collins   Frontier Armed and Mounted Police
22.  Patrick Condon
23. John Daly
24. Michael D’Arcy
25. Arthur William Dobson    Frontier Light Horse
26. W. Edwards
27. Howard English
27. James Fee
28. Frederic William Galloway
29. Walter Galloway
30. Robert John Gamble      Made claims re awarded VC
31. A. Gemmell        Baker’s Horse
32.  Staff Surgeon Usher Doyle Glanville   Served with Col A.W. Durnford   Biography
33. Lieut. Lambert Robert Gordon   Durban Voluntary Artillery
34. John Edward Robert Gosling    Served on “Active”
35. J.F. Harvey   Served On “Active”
36. R. Groves         3rd Buffs
37. John William Howdin
38. Captain Howes
39. S. E. Hull
40. Gen. Sir Edward Thomas Henry Hutton.   3rd Battalion 60th Rifles
41. Frederick Augustus Hunt  17th Lancers
42. Ronald George Inverarity
43. Walter James       Queensland
44. Henry Drummond Jackson
45. C. Jones
46. Maurice Jones
47. John Charles Kenyon
48. Private G. W. Laffan   2/4 K.C. Regiment of Foot S/ 2297
49. Samuel Lotinga      And a personal family relationship
50. James Lynch
51. John Wyndon Lyon  2nd Co. Natal Native Contingent     Biography
52. Eugene McCarthy   HMS  Shah
53. Edward Martin        Cape Mounted Rifles
54. George Martson Money     (J.M. Money)    Biography
55. George William Moss
56. Francis James Mudd
57. Major General John Fletcher Owen
58. Thomas Parker
59. Col. William de Passey  Born William Passey            Biography
60. Albert Edward Phillips   Boadicia
61. W. Pring  1st Bat. 13th Prince Albert’s Light Infantry
62. Sgt Major Quinn
63. James Phillip Reilly,      90th Perthshire Light Infantry, Zulu War, 1879
64. John Hussy De Bourgh Riordan       Biography
65.  Creed Baker Russell    Biography
66. William Roy     24th Regiment
67. Brigadier General John Robinson Royston
68. John Ryan     Connaught Rangers
69. W. Spencer         Diamond Field Light Horse
70. Joseph Solomons      2nd Cape Yeomanry
71. Andrew William Scott
72. Major Henry Calthorpe Somerset   Rifle Brigade
73. Charles Montague Fitzroy Sparks    Bower’s Rovers
74. Chief Petty Officer J.G. Sparkes   H.M.S. “Shah”
75. Archibald L. Stewart
76. Captain J. D. Switzer  R.N
77. Alfred Joseph Tate
78. Edward Ernest Taylor
79. Harry Trigg
80. Charles Henry Watson    Prince Edward Guards
81. James Grove White    57th Regiment
82. Charles Howard Wood
83. Capt. R.F. Wrench   Natal Native Contingent

Sometimes "Zulu" was  used as reference for other battles, as research indicated on the following



NOTZW1. Thomas Beddows
NOTZW.2 Warrant Officer Davidson, VC Fake
NOTZW.3. Sergeant-Major H. J. Fairbanks Incorrect He served in WWI
NOTZW4. James Francis Kite Did Not Serve at Rorke’s Drift nor Spanish America War
NOTZW5. John Mair Did Not Serve at Rorke’s Drift
NOTZW.6 Robert Longbottom Changed name to Longton 1889
NOTZW.7 William Ray Did not serve at Rorke’s Drift
NOTZW.8. Percy Patrick Townsend - Boer War
UNK1. F. J.Naish Volunteered but Australian services were not dispatched
UNK2. Arthur Davies
UNK3. Herbert Oxenham Born in Melbourne member of SA Police Force whe war erupted


Lived in New Zealand

George Hamilton Browne arrived 1872.

1. William Henry Glidon 1/24
2. Frank Summers        Transport Army Services
3. Major William John Campbell Talbot Army Medical
4. Charles George Frederick Wheeler   H.M.S Shah
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Hi Kris
Here's another two Australians who fought in the Zulu War , not sure if they were born in Australia or not ? , Arthur Dodson from Hobart or near it , Archibald Stewart from South Australia , Adelaide rings a bell ? , they were both KIA at Hlobane on March 28th 1879 .
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They are included
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Don't forget Hamer who emigrated to NZ.
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Hi Kris
Cpl (later Sgt) 3169 Rowland H Miller AHC (Rorkes Drift defender) was born in NZ.
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Thanks many entries in newspaper archives, for a James Hamer, not good ones, and no mention when he died in 1928,I presume that was he, that he was in the Zulu War

Rowland Miller, again no mention that he had been in the Zulu War, often remaining family inserted a post on that person's death.  I am sure there are more, who just changed their names.
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Hi Krish 

There is a letter in a New Zealand newspaper written by Colour Sergeant Mabin Rorkes Drift Defender I believe, don't know if he ended up living there?
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There could be another to add to the list:
25B/1379 Pte Joseph Bartlett 2/24th who is thought have emigrated after also serving in the Burma campaign with 2/SWB.
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Krish
I was for a long time in touch with Hamer's great-granddaughter. I did have a letter from her giving details of where and when Hamer lived while alive. I'll try to find it and get some dates of when he was living in NZ.
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Thanks Julian, it might help to identify the correct man.  I will check the other two as well.  One that Gary gave me Charles Post Grant  became a solicitor, in UK, went to Cambridge, and came to Australia in 1893, and died a few months later.
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Mr Mabin was reported in the NZ Press on two occasions, he lived in Woodstock in South Africa, and was still alive in 1935.  The first occasion he related the story of his involvement at Rorke's Drift which was reported in various overseas press.
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Krish,

You can add Richard Hawes MacCarthy to your list.

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Several of the members of the New South Wales Contingent who went to Suakin in 1885 (Mahdist War) have been identified as AZW veterans. I can have a look later.

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Which Contingent Commissary-General Strickland was instrumental in raising! He also went to Australia.


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Brigadier General John Robinson ROYSTON (Galloping Jack)

While Galloping Jack did VISIT Australia arriving on 3 October 1934 (see The Argus (Melbourne) 4 October 1834) to attend the Centenary celebrations he did not emigrated to Australia. He had been invited by the 8th Light Horse A.I.F. Association. After the celebrations and tours he returned to South Africa. It was in South Africa that he married in 1937 and died in 1942.

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AZW Veterans who were members of the NSW Contingent during the Suakin Campaign of 1885 (ranks are NSW Contingent ranks):

NSW Infantry:
Lt. R.F. Wrench (SA Medal, 1879 clasp).
C/Sgt. F.P. Liggins (SA Medal, 1879 clasp - 58th Foot).
Bugle-Major J. Best (SA Medal - Lonsdale's Horse).

NSW Ambulance Corps:
Surgeon Doyle Glanville (SA Medal, 1879 clasp - AMD)

Source - 'But Little Glory: The New South Wales Contingent to the Sudan, 1885', ed. Peter Stanley (1985).

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Thanks for the update.  I was surprised at the number associated with Sudan in 1885. I was also surprised at those who stated they had a VC.  I still believe there are more, who simply changed their names.  I uncovered only one.  My research was based on "Zulu" /"Veterans"  there were about another 10 or so who claimed to have served, but the use of "Zulu" referred sometimes to Boer War.
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My great-grandfather Archibald (Alexander) McNeil Border Horse - died here in Australia in 1936
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Very interesting McneilBen , I see Alexander was entitled to the Zulu War Medal with 1879 Clasp which proves he was in Zululand at the time of the Conflict . Salute
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PostSubject: Re: List of Zulu War Veterans who emigrated to Australia and New Zealand   List of Zulu War Veterans who emigrated to Australia and New Zealand EmptyTue Nov 21, 2023 7:18 pm

Captain Henry James Johnson, 80th Regiment, whose SAGS and IGS Perak medals were auctioned a few months ago, also settled in New Zealand, at least for a time.
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PostSubject: Re: List of Zulu War Veterans who emigrated to Australia and New Zealand   List of Zulu War Veterans who emigrated to Australia and New Zealand EmptyTue Nov 21, 2023 7:31 pm

Reginald Talbot was a State Governor of Victoria.

Rupert Clement George Carington was land owner in Hobart.

Sir Edward Strickland - mentioned above by Julian - is buried in Sydney.

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PostSubject: Nathaniel Gannaway AB HMS Boadicea.   List of Zulu War Veterans who emigrated to Australia and New Zealand EmptyWed Dec 27, 2023 2:57 pm

South Africa Medal (Zulu) clasp 1879

N Gannaway AB HMS Boadicea

Born Nathaniel Edward Gannaway in Southampton 21st August 1859, he entered the Royal Navy at St Vincent as Boy 2nd Class 10th September 1874. He subsequently joined Excellent 29th October 1875, Boscawen 26th January 1876, Duke of Wellington 23rd May 1876, HMS Raleigh 14th June 1876 where he was rated Ordinary Seaman 21st August 1877, Duke of Wellington 1st January 1878 where he was rated Able Seaman 8th November 1878, HMS Boadicea 24th November 1878. Whilst in South Africa he was sentenced to 6 weeks in prison by the civil powers at Simonstown (offence not recorded). Joining HMS Thalia11th April 1882, Excellent 3rd June 1882, he was discharged invalided from the Royal Naval Hospital, Haslar 23rd August 1883. Nathaniel died in Wentworth, New South Wales, Australia 19th November 1889.

Whilst looking through the local newspapers of the period I came across the following article which describes a murder taking place on the steam boat “Nellie” where it was reported that Nathaniel had been harassing the chef a “Charlie Chong” a China man who had been the victim of ridicule from Nathaniel over many months, which resulted in the chef stabbing Nathaniel in the abdomen and killing him. It looks as though Charlie Chong’s sentenced was reduced to manslaughter.

Please see the following photos of the medal and news reports.





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PostSubject: Re: List of Zulu War Veterans who emigrated to Australia and New Zealand   List of Zulu War Veterans who emigrated to Australia and New Zealand EmptyThu Dec 28, 2023 12:06 am

Thanks for that information, I am still working on a supplementary list, as I broadened the search parameters, the stories of their lives is just so interesting, as you have shown.
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PostSubject: Re: List of Zulu War Veterans who emigrated to Australia and New Zealand   List of Zulu War Veterans who emigrated to Australia and New Zealand EmptyThu Dec 28, 2023 10:27 pm

Here is a list of naval and marine personnel who had served in the Zulu War and later died and were buried in Australia.

HMS Active
Wallace Brownlow, Coburg Cemetery, Preston, Victoria
John E. R. Gosling, Mount Thompson Memorial Gardens, Brisbane, Queensland

HMS Boadicea
Henry Figg, Church of England Cemetery, Rookwood, New South Wales
John Heazle, Melbourne General Cemetery, Melbourne
Albert Phillip, Wallaroo Cemetery, Wallaroo, South Australia
Charles Wadling, Church of England Cemetery, Prospect, New South Wales

HMS Orontes
Sydney Gardner, Williamstown Cemetery, Williamstown, Hobsons Bay City, Victoria

HMS Shah
James Glazbrook, Cheltenham Cemetery, Adelaide, South Australia
Edwin Highman, Methodist Cemetery, Broken Hill, New South Wales
George T. Kirkaldie, Rookwood General Cemetery, Rookwood, New South Wales
Eugene McCarthy, Roman Catholic Section, Woronora Cemetery, Sutherland, New South Wales
John G. Sparks, Gore Hill Church of England Cemetery, Willoughby, New South Wales

Unattached Officer
Neville E. C. Legh, Rookwood General Cemetery, Rookwood, New South Wales

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Thanks I have some more as well, obviously will have to do a spreadsheet when I have completed this lengthy research!
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PostSubject: Re: List of Zulu War Veterans who emigrated to Australia and New Zealand   List of Zulu War Veterans who emigrated to Australia and New Zealand EmptyFri Dec 29, 2023 12:18 am

krish,

Here is a list of men of the Natal Mounted Police who served in the Zulu War and later moved to Australia.

Trooper Emil Paul Herman Berthold traveled to Australia where he became the Mayor of Broad Arrow, Western Australia.  He died 5 February 1893 at Bunbury, Western Australia.

Trooper Ernest T. Drury went to Aramac, Queensland, Australia in 1880.  He committed suicide by shooting himself on 24 October 1880 at Coreena Station, Aramac, Queensland.

Trooper Thomas Gill moved to Tasmania, Australia where he joined the police department.  He retired in 1919 with the rank of Inspector.  He died and was buried at Mintaro, South Australia in June 1933.

Trooper W C. Penny was in Brisbane, Australia in May 1928, with other veterans, at the Empire Day luncheon.

Trooper Henry John Pitt was in Sydney, Australia in 1927.

Trooper Clement Charles Secretan moved to Sydney, Australia where he became employed at Maori Bros. and Thompson.  He died at Sandgate, Lilley, Queensland on 4 September 1950.

Good luck with the spread sheet.

Tom
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