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| List of Zulu War Veterans who emigrated to Australia and New Zealand | |
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+9brercottage385 Catiline63 John Young Kenny Eddie Herbie Julian Whybra 90th krish 13 posters | Author | Message |
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krish
Posts : 82 Join date : 2015-01-30 Location : Australia
| Subject: List of Zulu War Veterans who emigrated to Australia and New Zealand Sat Nov 11, 2023 11:07 pm | |
| 2 Australian born served in Zulu War - Anstey and La Trobe 1 who came when he was 6 years - Creed Baker Russell
83 known Veterans emigrated to Australia, where possible boiographies have been done. Samuel Lotinga's daughter married into my Durnford family. Some lived a very long life, quite amazing after what they went through. Some commanded our forces in 1885, there are no doubt more who changed their names.
1. Thomas Arnold 2/4 K.C. Regiment of Foot 2. George Ashby Frontier Light Horse 3. William Wallace Bell Kaffarina Rifles Biography with links to Hart Family 4. Robert Barnes 5. William Warren Berry 6. Charles Belcher 99th Duke of Edinburgh’s Regiment 7. William Berwick 8. Bugle Major J Best Lonsdale’s Horse 9. Paul Berthold 10. George Billett 17th Lancers 11. Petty Officer Cornelius James Blacker Served on “Hector” 12. Frederick Robinson Bowrey Royal Artillery Claimed to have VC 13. Captain Charles James Brownrigg “Euphrates” 14. Michael Burns Frontier Light Horse 15. Lieutenant Charles R. Burnside Cape Mounted Rifles 16. John Cannell 17. Henry Walter Carpenter 17th Lancers 18. Douglas Dunn Carrick Despatch rider Zulu War 19. Frank Charles Royal Artillery 20. John Charles Clifford Baker’s Horse 21. Henry Collins Frontier Armed and Mounted Police 22. Patrick Condon 23. John Daly 24. Michael D’Arcy 25. Arthur William Dobson Frontier Light Horse 26. W. Edwards 27. Howard English 27. James Fee 28. Frederic William Galloway 29. Walter Galloway 30. Robert John Gamble Made claims re awarded VC 31. A. Gemmell Baker’s Horse 32. Staff Surgeon Usher Doyle Glanville Served with Col A.W. Durnford Biography 33. Lieut. Lambert Robert Gordon Durban Voluntary Artillery 34. John Edward Robert Gosling Served on “Active” 35. J.F. Harvey Served On “Active” 36. R. Groves 3rd Buffs 37. John William Howdin 38. Captain Howes 39. S. E. Hull 40. Gen. Sir Edward Thomas Henry Hutton. 3rd Battalion 60th Rifles 41. Frederick Augustus Hunt 17th Lancers 42. Ronald George Inverarity 43. Walter James Queensland 44. Henry Drummond Jackson 45. C. Jones 46. Maurice Jones 47. John Charles Kenyon 48. Private G. W. Laffan 2/4 K.C. Regiment of Foot S/ 2297 49. Samuel Lotinga And a personal family relationship 50. James Lynch 51. John Wyndon Lyon 2nd Co. Natal Native Contingent Biography 52. Eugene McCarthy HMS Shah 53. Edward Martin Cape Mounted Rifles 54. George Martson Money (J.M. Money) Biography 55. George William Moss 56. Francis James Mudd 57. Major General John Fletcher Owen 58. Thomas Parker 59. Col. William de Passey Born William Passey Biography 60. Albert Edward Phillips Boadicia 61. W. Pring 1st Bat. 13th Prince Albert’s Light Infantry 62. Sgt Major Quinn 63. James Phillip Reilly, 90th Perthshire Light Infantry, Zulu War, 1879 64. John Hussy De Bourgh Riordan Biography 65. Creed Baker Russell Biography 66. William Roy 24th Regiment 67. Brigadier General John Robinson Royston 68. John Ryan Connaught Rangers 69. W. Spencer Diamond Field Light Horse 70. Joseph Solomons 2nd Cape Yeomanry 71. Andrew William Scott 72. Major Henry Calthorpe Somerset Rifle Brigade 73. Charles Montague Fitzroy Sparks Bower’s Rovers 74. Chief Petty Officer J.G. Sparkes H.M.S. “Shah” 75. Archibald L. Stewart 76. Captain J. D. Switzer R.N 77. Alfred Joseph Tate 78. Edward Ernest Taylor 79. Harry Trigg 80. Charles Henry Watson Prince Edward Guards 81. James Grove White 57th Regiment 82. Charles Howard Wood 83. Capt. R.F. Wrench Natal Native Contingent
Sometimes "Zulu" was used as reference for other battles, as research indicated on the following
NOTZW1. Thomas Beddows NOTZW.2 Warrant Officer Davidson, VC Fake NOTZW.3. Sergeant-Major H. J. Fairbanks Incorrect He served in WWI NOTZW4. James Francis Kite Did Not Serve at Rorke’s Drift nor Spanish America War NOTZW5. John Mair Did Not Serve at Rorke’s Drift NOTZW.6 Robert Longbottom Changed name to Longton 1889 NOTZW.7 William Ray Did not serve at Rorke’s Drift NOTZW.8. Percy Patrick Townsend - Boer War UNK1. F. J.Naish Volunteered but Australian services were not dispatched UNK2. Arthur Davies UNK3. Herbert Oxenham Born in Melbourne member of SA Police Force whe war erupted
Lived in New Zealand
George Hamilton Browne arrived 1872.
1. William Henry Glidon 1/24 2. Frank Summers Transport Army Services 3. Major William John Campbell Talbot Army Medical 4. Charles George Frederick Wheeler H.M.S Shah |
| | | 90th
Posts : 10909 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 68 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: List of Zulu War Veterans who emigrated to Australia & New Zealand Sun Nov 12, 2023 2:34 am | |
| Hi Kris Here's another two Australians who fought in the Zulu War , not sure if they were born in Australia or not ? , Arthur Dodson from Hobart or near it , Archibald Stewart from South Australia , Adelaide rings a bell ? , they were both KIA at Hlobane on March 28th 1879 . 90th |
| | | krish
Posts : 82 Join date : 2015-01-30 Location : Australia
| Subject: Re: List of Zulu War Veterans who emigrated to Australia and New Zealand Sun Nov 12, 2023 3:42 am | |
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| | | Julian Whybra
Posts : 4175 Join date : 2011-09-12 Location : Billericay, Essex
| Subject: Re: List of Zulu War Veterans who emigrated to Australia and New Zealand Sun Nov 12, 2023 3:48 pm | |
| Don't forget Hamer who emigrated to NZ. |
| | | Herbie
Posts : 118 Join date : 2017-11-16 Age : 59 Location : Epsom, Surrey
| Subject: Re: List of Zulu War Veterans who emigrated to Australia and New Zealand Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:21 pm | |
| Hi Kris Cpl (later Sgt) 3169 Rowland H Miller AHC (Rorkes Drift defender) was born in NZ. regards Phil |
| | | krish
Posts : 82 Join date : 2015-01-30 Location : Australia
| Subject: Re: List of Zulu War Veterans who emigrated to Australia and New Zealand Sun Nov 12, 2023 11:21 pm | |
| Thanks many entries in newspaper archives, for a James Hamer, not good ones, and no mention when he died in 1928,I presume that was he, that he was in the Zulu War
Rowland Miller, again no mention that he had been in the Zulu War, often remaining family inserted a post on that person's death. I am sure there are more, who just changed their names. |
| | | Eddie
Posts : 818 Join date : 2022-07-13 Age : 65 Location : Newport Wales
| Subject: Re: List of Zulu War Veterans who emigrated to Australia and New Zealand Mon Nov 13, 2023 5:06 am | |
| Hi Krish
There is a letter in a New Zealand newspaper written by Colour Sergeant Mabin Rorkes Drift Defender I believe, don't know if he ended up living there? |
| | | Kenny
Posts : 615 Join date : 2013-05-07 Location : Brecon
| Subject: Re: List of Zulu War Veterans who emigrated to Australia and New Zealand Mon Nov 13, 2023 8:07 am | |
| There could be another to add to the list: 25B/1379 Pte Joseph Bartlett 2/24th who is thought have emigrated after also serving in the Burma campaign with 2/SWB. |
| | | Julian Whybra
Posts : 4175 Join date : 2011-09-12 Location : Billericay, Essex
| Subject: Re: List of Zulu War Veterans who emigrated to Australia and New Zealand Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:02 am | |
| Krish I was for a long time in touch with Hamer's great-granddaughter. I did have a letter from her giving details of where and when Hamer lived while alive. I'll try to find it and get some dates of when he was living in NZ. Julian |
| | | krish
Posts : 82 Join date : 2015-01-30 Location : Australia
| Subject: Re: List of Zulu War Veterans who emigrated to Australia and New Zealand Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:10 am | |
| Thanks Julian, it might help to identify the correct man. I will check the other two as well. One that Gary gave me Charles Post Grant became a solicitor, in UK, went to Cambridge, and came to Australia in 1893, and died a few months later. |
| | | krish
Posts : 82 Join date : 2015-01-30 Location : Australia
| Subject: Re: List of Zulu War Veterans who emigrated to Australia and New Zealand Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:36 am | |
| Mr Mabin was reported in the NZ Press on two occasions, he lived in Woodstock in South Africa, and was still alive in 1935. The first occasion he related the story of his involvement at Rorke's Drift which was reported in various overseas press. |
| | | John Young
Posts : 3315 Join date : 2013-09-08 Age : 68 Location : Слава Україні! Героям слава!
| Subject: Re: List of Zulu War Veterans who emigrated to Australia and New Zealand Wed Nov 15, 2023 11:49 am | |
| Krish, You can add Richard Hawes MacCarthy to your list. See [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]JY |
| | | Catiline63
Posts : 28 Join date : 2019-08-24 Location : Burgess Hill, West Sussex
| Subject: Re: List of Zulu War Veterans who emigrated to Australia and New Zealand Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:53 pm | |
| Several of the members of the New South Wales Contingent who went to Suakin in 1885 (Mahdist War) have been identified as AZW veterans. I can have a look later.
All the best, Lee |
| | | Julian Whybra
Posts : 4175 Join date : 2011-09-12 Location : Billericay, Essex
| Subject: Re: List of Zulu War Veterans who emigrated to Australia and New Zealand Mon Nov 20, 2023 3:35 pm | |
| Which Contingent Commissary-General Strickland was instrumental in raising! He also went to Australia.
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| | | brercottage385
Posts : 1 Join date : 2011-12-07
| Subject: Re: List of Zulu War Veterans who emigrated to Australia and New Zealand Mon Nov 20, 2023 3:55 pm | |
| Brigadier General John Robinson ROYSTON (Galloping Jack)
While Galloping Jack did VISIT Australia arriving on 3 October 1934 (see The Argus (Melbourne) 4 October 1834) to attend the Centenary celebrations he did not emigrated to Australia. He had been invited by the 8th Light Horse A.I.F. Association. After the celebrations and tours he returned to South Africa. It was in South Africa that he married in 1937 and died in 1942.
Basil G Royston, D.Min. |
| | | Catiline63
Posts : 28 Join date : 2019-08-24 Location : Burgess Hill, West Sussex
| Subject: Re: List of Zulu War Veterans who emigrated to Australia and New Zealand Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:21 pm | |
| AZW Veterans who were members of the NSW Contingent during the Suakin Campaign of 1885 (ranks are NSW Contingent ranks):
NSW Infantry: Lt. R.F. Wrench (SA Medal, 1879 clasp). C/Sgt. F.P. Liggins (SA Medal, 1879 clasp - 58th Foot). Bugle-Major J. Best (SA Medal - Lonsdale's Horse).
NSW Ambulance Corps: Surgeon Doyle Glanville (SA Medal, 1879 clasp - AMD)
Source - 'But Little Glory: The New South Wales Contingent to the Sudan, 1885', ed. Peter Stanley (1985).
All the best, Lee |
| | | krish
Posts : 82 Join date : 2015-01-30 Location : Australia
| Subject: Re: List of Zulu War Veterans who emigrated to Australia and New Zealand Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:28 pm | |
| Thanks for the update. I was surprised at the number associated with Sudan in 1885. I was also surprised at those who stated they had a VC. I still believe there are more, who simply changed their names. I uncovered only one. My research was based on "Zulu" /"Veterans" there were about another 10 or so who claimed to have served, but the use of "Zulu" referred sometimes to Boer War. |
| | | McneilBen
Posts : 7 Join date : 2016-06-05
| Subject: Re: List of Zulu War Veterans who emigrated to Australia and New Zealand Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:10 am | |
| My great-grandfather Archibald (Alexander) McNeil Border Horse - died here in Australia in 1936
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| | | 90th
Posts : 10909 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 68 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: List of Zulu War Veterans who emigrated to Australia & New Zealand Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:09 am | |
| Very interesting McneilBen , I see Alexander was entitled to the Zulu War Medal with 1879 Clasp which proves he was in Zululand at the time of the Conflict . 90th |
| | | sekukuni
Posts : 11 Join date : 2010-08-21
| Subject: Re: List of Zulu War Veterans who emigrated to Australia and New Zealand Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:18 pm | |
| Captain Henry James Johnson, 80th Regiment, whose SAGS and IGS Perak medals were auctioned a few months ago, also settled in New Zealand, at least for a time. Regards, Steven |
| | | John Young
Posts : 3315 Join date : 2013-09-08 Age : 68 Location : Слава Україні! Героям слава!
| Subject: Re: List of Zulu War Veterans who emigrated to Australia and New Zealand Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:31 pm | |
| Reginald Talbot was a State Governor of Victoria.
Rupert Clement George Carington was land owner in Hobart.
Sir Edward Strickland - mentioned above by Julian - is buried in Sydney.
JY
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| | | Matthew Turl
Posts : 14 Join date : 2019-04-15 Location : United Kingdom
| Subject: Nathaniel Gannaway AB HMS Boadicea. Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:57 pm | |
| South Africa Medal (Zulu) clasp 1879
N Gannaway AB HMS Boadicea
Born Nathaniel Edward Gannaway in Southampton 21st August 1859, he entered the Royal Navy at St Vincent as Boy 2nd Class 10th September 1874. He subsequently joined Excellent 29th October 1875, Boscawen 26th January 1876, Duke of Wellington 23rd May 1876, HMS Raleigh 14th June 1876 where he was rated Ordinary Seaman 21st August 1877, Duke of Wellington 1st January 1878 where he was rated Able Seaman 8th November 1878, HMS Boadicea 24th November 1878. Whilst in South Africa he was sentenced to 6 weeks in prison by the civil powers at Simonstown (offence not recorded). Joining HMS Thalia11th April 1882, Excellent 3rd June 1882, he was discharged invalided from the Royal Naval Hospital, Haslar 23rd August 1883. Nathaniel died in Wentworth, New South Wales, Australia 19th November 1889.
Whilst looking through the local newspapers of the period I came across the following article which describes a murder taking place on the steam boat “Nellie” where it was reported that Nathaniel had been harassing the chef a “Charlie Chong” a China man who had been the victim of ridicule from Nathaniel over many months, which resulted in the chef stabbing Nathaniel in the abdomen and killing him. It looks as though Charlie Chong’s sentenced was reduced to manslaughter.
Please see the following photos of the medal and news reports.
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| | | krish
Posts : 82 Join date : 2015-01-30 Location : Australia
| Subject: Re: List of Zulu War Veterans who emigrated to Australia and New Zealand Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:06 am | |
| Thanks for that information, I am still working on a supplementary list, as I broadened the search parameters, the stories of their lives is just so interesting, as you have shown. |
| | | Petty Officer Tom
Posts : 366 Join date : 2017-02-05 Location : Texas, U.S.A.
| Subject: Re: List of Zulu War Veterans who emigrated to Australia and New Zealand Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:27 pm | |
| Here is a list of naval and marine personnel who had served in the Zulu War and later died and were buried in Australia.
HMS Active Wallace Brownlow, Coburg Cemetery, Preston, Victoria John E. R. Gosling, Mount Thompson Memorial Gardens, Brisbane, Queensland
HMS Boadicea Henry Figg, Church of England Cemetery, Rookwood, New South Wales John Heazle, Melbourne General Cemetery, Melbourne Albert Phillip, Wallaroo Cemetery, Wallaroo, South Australia Charles Wadling, Church of England Cemetery, Prospect, New South Wales
HMS Orontes Sydney Gardner, Williamstown Cemetery, Williamstown, Hobsons Bay City, Victoria
HMS Shah James Glazbrook, Cheltenham Cemetery, Adelaide, South Australia Edwin Highman, Methodist Cemetery, Broken Hill, New South Wales George T. Kirkaldie, Rookwood General Cemetery, Rookwood, New South Wales Eugene McCarthy, Roman Catholic Section, Woronora Cemetery, Sutherland, New South Wales John G. Sparks, Gore Hill Church of England Cemetery, Willoughby, New South Wales
Unattached Officer Neville E. C. Legh, Rookwood General Cemetery, Rookwood, New South Wales
Tom |
| | | krish
Posts : 82 Join date : 2015-01-30 Location : Australia
| Subject: Re: List of Zulu War Veterans who emigrated to Australia and New Zealand Thu Dec 28, 2023 11:39 pm | |
| Thanks I have some more as well, obviously will have to do a spreadsheet when I have completed this lengthy research! |
| | | Petty Officer Tom
Posts : 366 Join date : 2017-02-05 Location : Texas, U.S.A.
| Subject: Re: List of Zulu War Veterans who emigrated to Australia and New Zealand Fri Dec 29, 2023 12:18 am | |
| krish,
Here is a list of men of the Natal Mounted Police who served in the Zulu War and later moved to Australia.
Trooper Emil Paul Herman Berthold traveled to Australia where he became the Mayor of Broad Arrow, Western Australia. He died 5 February 1893 at Bunbury, Western Australia.
Trooper Ernest T. Drury went to Aramac, Queensland, Australia in 1880. He committed suicide by shooting himself on 24 October 1880 at Coreena Station, Aramac, Queensland.
Trooper Thomas Gill moved to Tasmania, Australia where he joined the police department. He retired in 1919 with the rank of Inspector. He died and was buried at Mintaro, South Australia in June 1933.
Trooper W C. Penny was in Brisbane, Australia in May 1928, with other veterans, at the Empire Day luncheon.
Trooper Henry John Pitt was in Sydney, Australia in 1927.
Trooper Clement Charles Secretan moved to Sydney, Australia where he became employed at Maori Bros. and Thompson. He died at Sandgate, Lilley, Queensland on 4 September 1950.
Good luck with the spread sheet.
Tom |
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