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Guest Guest
| Subject: other movies ? Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:11 am | |
| Hi
Apart from "Zulu" and "Zulu Dawn" can we find other movies on the British invasion of Zululand in 1879?
Or on the Zulu rebellions of 1888 and 1906 ?
Cheers
Pascal |
| | | Dave
Posts : 1603 Join date : 2009-09-21
| Subject: Re: other movies ? Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:17 pm | |
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| | | Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: other movies ? Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:01 am | |
| Hi Dave
It is strange that the War of the Zulu is not interested in more than that, the filmmakers ...
By cons of Google video, proposed by the TV channel Planet include:"Zoulous,le défis guerrier" English language. and French Language.
That's good, but they speak only of Isandhlwana and RD...
Comments by Ian Knight, David Saul and the current king of the Zulu.
Cheers
Pascal |
| | | old historian2
Posts : 1093 Join date : 2009-01-14 Location : East London
| Subject: Re: other movies ? Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:12 pm | |
| Strange but true. Thats why the other battles are known as the forgotten battles of the Zulu War. Our member Ken Gillings is well versed on these battles. I would like to see a film made ending with the Battle Ulundi. |
| | | Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: other movies ? Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:11 am | |
| Hi
If the 24th Foot had not been killed, the Zulu War did not interest anyone, and in addition, no action at Rorke's Drift, without that of Isandhlwana ...
But I think the men of the 13 other battalions who participated in this war, did not envy those in the 24 th.
And he did not care that we speak of them in the future
The trick would be friendly, a film made by the current Zulu.
When we hear that said the current king of the Zulu war in this ...
That would make a film more realistic.
Cheers
Pascal |
| | | Chelmsfordthescapegoat
Posts : 2593 Join date : 2009-04-24
| Subject: Re: other movies ? Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:21 pm | |
| Luckly we don't all think the same. I don't think they could make a better re-make of the film. |
| | | Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: other movies ? Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:47 pm | |
| good evening
Of course if, Zulu and Zulu Dawn are far from the truth because only movies.
The filmmakers always think that their films will be more sensational than the truth, it is a mistake, nothing is more amazing than the truth.
good night
Pascal |
| | | Mr M. Cooper
Posts : 2591 Join date : 2011-09-29 Location : Lancashire, England.
| Subject: other movies ? Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:02 am | |
| Hi Pascal
How very, very true.
It is about time both films were re-made, and this time get rid of the fiction that creates myths (as in the film 'Zulu'), and get both films accurate and in the right order.
I have often thought that a series of films covering the whole of the AZW would be a good idea. They could even take the form of the two hour 'Sharpe' episodes that are shown on T.V, I think they would get a good following by AZW enthusiasts, especially if they were made much more accurate and factual, rather than the mostly fiction that was co-directed by Baker in the film 'Zulu'. Although it will always be considered a classic film, it is totally inaccurate to such a degree that it is almost fiction. Even 'Zulu Dawn' is less than accurate, there is some fictitious stuff in that film, but at least it is a tad more accurate than 'Zulu'. However, after all this time, both films should be re-made, and this time get them both in the right order, but most of all, make them more accurate and tell the people the truth, so that they will know the true identity of the REAL Noble 24th.
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| | | Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: other movies ? Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:11 am | |
| Hello Mr. Cooper Yes but remember that all truth was not good to say! If there was a poll today, who would take advantage of the UK would be very few, it is expressed in the film Zulu Dawn, or the British are really the evil and the victims are the Zulu ... Me when I see the uniforms and the deployment of British forces in these films, my blood runs in bleaches, directors of war movies are really , they can kill the truth of historical facts ... In fact the only one responsible for all these horrors is Frere ... Cheers Pascal |
| | | Mr M. Cooper
Posts : 2591 Join date : 2011-09-29 Location : Lancashire, England.
| Subject: other movies ? Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:19 pm | |
| Hi Pascal
Yes, I know what you mean about the truth. There have been some rather heated exchanges between certain members on this forum who refuse to see the truth, even when it is blatantly obvious and it jumps up right in front of them. They attempt to persuade others that only they are right, and resort to quoting 'facts' that they know are not actually 'factual', but still quote them anyway, in the hope that others will believe what they say. It takes the intervention of some very knowledgeable historians to put them in their place, and they eventually get shot down in flames and have to eat humble pie. You are also right about directors and co-directors, some of them try to distort the actual facts of history in their blind, egoistic and nationalistic attempts to alter history, and in doing so, they mislead the public into believing that what they see and hear on the screen is what actually happened, and create myths that the uninitiated people take for granted as being fact. If things are allowed to carry on like this, eventually the myth replaces the fact, and history can get altered, and it is only when people start to ask questions that the myth gets exposed and the truth starts to emerge.
You are right about Frere, and at least the film 'Zulu Dawn' exposed this by showing Frere and Chelmsford plotting together before the invasion. |
| | | Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: other movies ? Sun Jan 08, 2012 2:53 pm | |
| Hi Dear Mr. Cooper
I'm the black ugly duckling of this forum, but from what I read on another topic at this momment, there are so enraged that they are returning all the forums !
Best Regards Dear Mr. Cooper
Cheers Dear Mr. Cooper
Pascal
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| | | ADMIN
Posts : 4358 Join date : 2008-11-01 Age : 65 Location : KENT
| Subject: Re: other movies ? Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:25 pm | |
| - Quote :
- I'm the black ugly duckling of this forum, but from what I read on another topic at this momment, there are so enraged that they are returning all the forums !
What is meant by this. |
| | | Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: other movies ? Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:50 pm | |
| Because I do not hesitate to raise issues due respect, I have a lot of support but only with the pm, alas.
Cheers
Pascal |
| | | Chelmsfordthescapegoat
Posts : 2593 Join date : 2009-04-24
| Subject: Re: other movies ? Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:10 pm | |
| Your doing very well Pascal. Pity the replies on not on the forum. |
| | | Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: other movies ? Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:02 am | |
| Coin ! Coin ! |
| | | bayonet charge
Posts : 28 Join date : 2011-02-20 Age : 31 Location : Wirral, Merseyside
| Subject: Re: other movies ? Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:22 pm | |
| On topic, I made a suggestion a while a go that a TV miniseries ala Band of Brothers would be a good way of incorporating the 'Lost Battles' of the Zulu War, with Ulundi, Hlobane, Gingindlovu, Kambula, Eshowe and Intombe perhaps featuring?! It could be an epic... |
| | | Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: other movies ? Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:26 am | |
| Hi Charge à la bayonette
Yes , yes , would do better a television series as for Shaka...
Cheers
Pascal |
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