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![Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native Contingent Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native Contingent Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:16 pm | |
| http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/South-Africa-Medal-Zulu-War-1897-Clasp-Officer-/160719817698?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item256ba5cbe2 |
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| Hi Tasker . When I saw it on ebay I checked the Roll and he wasnt on it , which doesnt mean a great deal as they were far from complete all the NNC Rolls . cheers 90th. :joker: |
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![Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native Contingent Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native Contingent Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:41 pm | |
| - 90th wrote:
- Hi Tasker .
When I saw it on ebay I checked the Roll and he wasnt on it , which doesnt mean a great deal as they were far from complete all the NNC Rolls . cheers 90th. :joker: Thanks 90th. The seller says this in his ad also. |
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| Hi Tasker . Tempted ????. ![Shocked](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_eek.gif) . cheers 90th. |
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![Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native Contingent Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native Contingent Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:42 pm | |
| Yes, I don't have custody of any medals to colonial units in my collection and I missed out on the one to the NMP some months ago, despite bidding what I thought was a reasonable 4 figure sum. |
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![Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native Contingent Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native Contingent Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:19 pm | |
| Hi Tasker I Have sent you a PM |
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![Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native Contingent Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native Contingent Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:30 am | |
| Just over half a day to go. Almost £600 for a medal to an officer of the NNC. Not too bad, one may think. Snag is, there is no documentary evidence whatsoever, that links this name and rank with this medal. A permanent question mark will exist. I'm out. |
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![Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native Contingent Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native Contingent Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:48 pm | |
| - Quote :
- there is no documentary evidence whatsoever, that links this name and rank with this medal
He was an NNC Officer, served with 1/1 NNC from late 1878, medal not on the roll but this is not that uncommon with medals to Colonials/Irregulars. Jager1 |
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![Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native Contingent Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native Contingent Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:02 pm | |
| Source?
The docs shown in the advert do show a Wales, but on one the initial is M J and on the other G M. On the medal we have M G. |
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![Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native Contingent Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native Contingent Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:17 pm | |
| Local General Orders - these were published in various Natal newspapers at the time giving details of recruitment, promotions etc. |
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| OK, many thanks Jager. I don't have access to these. Were you able to confirm the name precisely as "M G Wales"... and did you win it? Tasker |
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![Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native Contingent Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native Contingent Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:38 pm | |
| Yes its M G Wales , order 208 28th Nov 1878 (Times of Natal 2nd Dec).
The page from 'War Comes to Umvoti' sais M J Wales but the J will just be an error,probably copied from another Order of the time - errors with initials and surname spellings are pretty common in these |
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