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rusteze
Posts : 2871 Join date : 2010-06-02
| Subject: New Year Mystery Photo Wed Dec 31, 2014 4:45 pm | |
| Something to do while recovering tomorrow (or today if your in Oz). An enlargement from a photo I have. Which regiment? Where is it? What rifle is that? What's going on? [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Steve |
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John
Posts : 2558 Join date : 2009-04-06 Age : 62 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Wed Dec 31, 2014 9:53 pm | |
| Is it from the Afghan War of 1878–1880 ? |
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rusteze
Posts : 2871 Join date : 2010-06-02
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:01 pm | |
| Good try John. But no.
Steve |
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90th
Posts : 10909 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 68 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: New Year Mystery Photo Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:17 pm | |
| Hi Steve About to fly out the door going to work an hour early , public holiday pay rates today ! , Sorry ! I misread the Roster ! Hhahahahahha , Quick stabs , India or Gibraltar ? . Cheers 90th |
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rusteze
Posts : 2871 Join date : 2010-06-02
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:21 pm | |
| Work! Rather you than me. Not India, not Gibralter.
Steve |
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John
Posts : 2558 Join date : 2009-04-06 Age : 62 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:23 pm | |
| He's not a British soldier, based on he wouldn't carry his rifle like that. |
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rusteze
Posts : 2871 Join date : 2010-06-02
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:23 pm | |
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90th
Posts : 10909 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 68 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: New Year Mystery Photo Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:25 pm | |
| Hi Steve Hhahahahha , hey someone's gotta do it ! 90th |
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John
Posts : 2558 Join date : 2009-04-06 Age : 62 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:27 pm | |
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rusteze
Posts : 2871 Join date : 2010-06-02
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:30 pm | |
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John
Posts : 2558 Join date : 2009-04-06 Age : 62 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:34 pm | |
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rusteze
Posts : 2871 Join date : 2010-06-02
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:40 pm | |
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ymob
Posts : 2268 Join date : 2010-10-22 Location : France
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:42 pm | |
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John
Posts : 2558 Join date : 2009-04-06 Age : 62 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:43 pm | |
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John
Posts : 2558 Join date : 2009-04-06 Age : 62 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:46 pm | |
| It's that a hat, or Bandage. |
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rusteze
Posts : 2871 Join date : 2010-06-02
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:57 pm | |
| Nothing close yet. Will add some clues tomorrow if no one gets there first.
Steve |
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John
Posts : 2558 Join date : 2009-04-06 Age : 62 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:58 pm | |
| Gives us one more clue tonight. |
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rusteze
Posts : 2871 Join date : 2010-06-02
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Wed Dec 31, 2014 11:08 pm | |
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ymob
Posts : 2268 Join date : 2010-10-22 Location : France
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Wed Dec 31, 2014 11:21 pm | |
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John
Posts : 2558 Join date : 2009-04-06 Age : 62 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Wed Dec 31, 2014 11:30 pm | |
| Was the chap in the photo a VC winner? |
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rusteze
Posts : 2871 Join date : 2010-06-02
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Wed Dec 31, 2014 11:46 pm | |
| Not a movie or a VC winner (so far as I know). Just about to open the fizz, so happy new year and see you tomorrow.
Steve |
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Mr M. Cooper
Posts : 2591 Join date : 2011-09-29 Location : Lancashire, England.
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Thu Jan 01, 2015 12:20 am | |
| Could this rifle be a snider-enfield, and could this be the Abbysinia campaign (Battle of Magdala)? |
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rusteze
Posts : 2871 Join date : 2010-06-02
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Thu Jan 01, 2015 11:43 am | |
| Morning all.
First points go to Mr Cooper! It is indeed a Snider Enfield rifle he carries across his shoulders. That should help you narrow the date range. After Crimea and before Zulu.
But no, not Abyssinia I am afraid.
The hat offers something of a clue as to where the Regiment has just been, but not to where it is in the photograph.
We are talking Southern Hemisphere.
There is a link to "our" war.
Good luck.
Steve |
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90th
Posts : 10909 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 68 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: New Year Mystery Photo Thu Jan 01, 2015 11:54 am | |
| Hi Steve Ashantee campaign 1873 -1874 ? . 90th |
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rusteze
Posts : 2871 Join date : 2010-06-02
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Thu Jan 01, 2015 12:17 pm | |
| Not Ashantee. But good dates!
Steve |
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littlehand
Posts : 7076 Join date : 2009-04-24 Age : 56 Location : Down South.
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Thu Jan 01, 2015 12:58 pm | |
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rusteze
Posts : 2871 Join date : 2010-06-02
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Thu Jan 01, 2015 1:29 pm | |
| Not the Ninth Xhosa War, or even the Xhosa 2000 War! But your edging closer. More clues later.
Steve |
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Mr M. Cooper
Posts : 2591 Join date : 2011-09-29 Location : Lancashire, England.
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Thu Jan 01, 2015 3:38 pm | |
| Egypt? No, that was later. How about the battle of Ali Masjid (Khyber Pass).
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Thu Jan 01, 2015 3:52 pm | |
| Fanning the flames, nice one me old china. xhosa |
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Mr M. Cooper
Posts : 2591 Join date : 2011-09-29 Location : Lancashire, England.
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:08 pm | |
| Hang on, What about the Opium War or the Sepoy Mutiny? |
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rusteze
Posts : 2871 Join date : 2010-06-02
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:15 pm | |
| Sorry Les, I couldn't resist and should have. Your all moving away from the answer, but your last post, Martin, is pretty good for where the Regiment was just before this. Here's a satellite shot of the location - easy. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Steve |
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Mr M. Cooper
Posts : 2591 Join date : 2011-09-29 Location : Lancashire, England.
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:18 pm | |
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rusteze
Posts : 2871 Join date : 2010-06-02
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:25 pm | |
| No, more an action than a war.
Steve |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:26 pm | |
| Steve nae bovver, would have gone for it myself! xhosa |
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rusteze
Posts : 2871 Join date : 2010-06-02
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:35 pm | |
| Another clue or this could go on for ever!
We are talking Africa south of the equator.
Steve |
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littlehand
Posts : 7076 Join date : 2009-04-24 Age : 56 Location : Down South.
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:48 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:55 pm | |
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rusteze
Posts : 2871 Join date : 2010-06-02
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Thu Jan 01, 2015 5:02 pm | |
| I sense people are becoming frustrated, so another big clue. This is an enlargement of another part of the same photograph. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Steve |
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Mr M. Cooper
Posts : 2591 Join date : 2011-09-29 Location : Lancashire, England.
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Thu Jan 01, 2015 5:15 pm | |
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rusteze
Posts : 2871 Join date : 2010-06-02
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Thu Jan 01, 2015 5:20 pm | |
| That's not south of the equator is it?
Steve |
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rusteze
Posts : 2871 Join date : 2010-06-02
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Thu Jan 01, 2015 5:23 pm | |
| What else can I tell you? The whole photo has been published, but a very small version. I know some of you have the book.
There, giving it away.
Steve |
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John Young
Posts : 3315 Join date : 2013-09-08 Age : 68 Location : Слава Україні! Героям слава!
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Thu Jan 01, 2015 5:38 pm | |
| Steve,
I'd go for the passes leading from Natal towards present-day Lesotho in about 1874.
JY |
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rusteze
Posts : 2871 Join date : 2010-06-02
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Thu Jan 01, 2015 5:43 pm | |
| Hooray - give the man a cuddly toy!
So what's the regiment? and what's the unit in the second enlargement?
Steve |
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John Young
Posts : 3315 Join date : 2013-09-08 Age : 68 Location : Слава Україні! Героям слава!
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Thu Jan 01, 2015 5:57 pm | |
| Steve,
I'd say the British soldier is from the 75th (Stirlingshire) Regiment, they were posted from China to Fort Napier. I have previously posted a photograph of Durnford with their officers, including 'Lucky' Essex at Fort Napier.
As to the locally-recruited man I'd venture a guess that he is one of Hlubi's baSotho.
JY |
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rusteze
Posts : 2871 Join date : 2010-06-02
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Thu Jan 01, 2015 6:05 pm | |
| Bang on John. So it relates to all that discussion we were having just a few days ago about Durnford and Langalibelele. Its in the Bushmans River Pass. See guys, we never venture very far away from the good Colonel. Les, the photo is reproduced in Drooglever (but you probably wouldn't recognise the enlargements from that - they are very small). I feel quite exhausted. Steve |
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John Young
Posts : 3315 Join date : 2013-09-08 Age : 68 Location : Слава Україні! Героям слава!
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Thu Jan 01, 2015 6:15 pm | |
| Steve,
I'll ask the family if they have the original in their archive? I'm seeing them on 22nd January 2015 together with the Colenso family.
JY |
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Mr M. Cooper
Posts : 2591 Join date : 2011-09-29 Location : Lancashire, England.
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Thu Jan 01, 2015 6:16 pm | |
| LOL! Well, at least I got the rifle correct |
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rusteze
Posts : 2871 Join date : 2010-06-02
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Thu Jan 01, 2015 6:20 pm | |
| Happy to supply a copy if they have not John.
Steve |
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littlehand
Posts : 7076 Join date : 2009-04-24 Age : 56 Location : Down South.
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Thu Jan 01, 2015 6:20 pm | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo Thu Jan 01, 2015 6:23 pm | |
| Hmm, show's a very devious turn of mind! can't believe i get to use the word Machiavellian twice in one week..well done. xhosa |
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