WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM

Film Zulu. Lieutenant John Chard: The army doesn't like more than one disaster in a day. Bromhead: Looks bad in the newspapers and upsets civilians at their breakfast.
 
HomeHome  GalleryGallery  Latest imagesLatest images  SearchSearch  RegisterRegister  Log inLog in  
Latest topics
» The Passing of Lady Ellen Baker.
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptySat Nov 23, 2024 11:35 pm by John Young

» Dr. A. Ralph Busby
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptySat Nov 23, 2024 9:14 am by Julian Whybra

» Did Ntishingwayo really not know Lord C wasn't at home
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyFri Nov 22, 2024 9:31 am by Julian Whybra

» Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native Contingent
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptySat Nov 16, 2024 12:32 pm by Matthew Turl

» Colonel Edward William Bray, 2nd/4th Regt.
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyFri Nov 15, 2024 9:55 pm by Julian Whybra

» Royal Marine Light Infantry, Chatham
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyThu Nov 14, 2024 7:57 pm by Petty Officer Tom

» H.M.S. Forester
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyThu Nov 14, 2024 4:07 pm by johnex

» Samuel Popple
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyWed Nov 13, 2024 8:43 am by STEPHEN JAMES

» Studies in the Zulu War volume VI now available
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptySat Nov 09, 2024 6:38 pm by Julian Whybra

» Colonel Charles Knight Pearson
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyFri Nov 08, 2024 5:56 pm by LincolnJDH

» Grave of Henry Spalding
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyThu Nov 07, 2024 8:10 pm by 1879graves

» John West at Kambula
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyThu Nov 07, 2024 5:25 pm by MKalny15

» Private Frederick Evans 2/24th
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptySun Nov 03, 2024 8:12 pm by Dash

» How to find medal entitlement Coker
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptySun Nov 03, 2024 10:51 am by Kev T

» Isandlwana Casualty - McCathie/McCarthy
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptySat Nov 02, 2024 1:40 pm by Julian Whybra

» William Jones Comment
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyFri Nov 01, 2024 6:07 pm by Eddie

» Brother of Lt Young
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyFri Nov 01, 2024 5:13 pm by Eddie

» Frederick Marsh - HMS Tenedos
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyFri Nov 01, 2024 9:48 am by lydenburg

» Mr Spiers KIA iSandlwana ?
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyFri Nov 01, 2024 7:50 am by Julian Whybra

» Isandhlwana unaccounted for casualties
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyFri Nov 01, 2024 7:48 am by Julian Whybra

» Thrupps report to Surgeon General Wolfies
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyThu Oct 31, 2024 12:32 pm by Julian Whybra

» Absence of Vereker from Snook's Book
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyFri Oct 25, 2024 10:59 pm by Julian Whybra

» Another Actor related to the Degacher-Hitchcock family
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyMon Oct 21, 2024 1:07 pm by Stefaan

» No. 799 George Williams and his son-in-law No. 243 Thomas Newman
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptySat Oct 19, 2024 12:36 pm by Dash

» Alphonse de Neuville- Painting the Defence of Rorke's Drift
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyFri Oct 18, 2024 8:34 am by Stefaan

» Studies in the Zulu War volumes
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyWed Oct 16, 2024 3:26 pm by Julian Whybra

» Martini Henry carbine IC1 markings
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyMon Oct 14, 2024 10:48 pm by Parkerbloggs

» James Conner 1879 clasp
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyMon Oct 14, 2024 7:12 pm by Kenny

» 80th REG of Foot (Staffords)
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptySun Oct 13, 2024 9:07 pm by shadeswolf

» Frontier Light Horse uniform
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptySun Oct 13, 2024 8:12 pm by Schlaumeier

» Gelsthorpe, G. 1374 Private 1/24th / Scott, Sidney W. 521 Private 1/24th
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptySun Oct 13, 2024 1:00 pm by Dash

» A Bullet Bible
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptySat Oct 12, 2024 8:33 am by Julian Whybra

» Brothers Sears
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyFri Oct 11, 2024 7:17 pm by Eddie

» Zulu War Medal MHS Tamar
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyFri Oct 11, 2024 3:48 pm by philip c

» Ford Park Cemetery, Plymouth.
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyTue Oct 08, 2024 4:15 pm by rai

Search
 
 

Display results as :
 
Rechercher Advanced Search
November 2024
MonTueWedThuFriSatSun
    123
45678910
11121314151617
18192021222324
252627282930 
CalendarCalendar
Most active topics
Durnford was he capable.1
Durnford was he capable. 4
Durnford was he capable.5
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
Isandlwana, Last Stands
The ammunition question
Durnford was he capable. 3
Durnford was he capable.2
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
The missing five hours.
Most Viewed Topics
Please Do Not Post Ads on Our Forum
Google Chrome new standards imposed
Isandlwana, Last Stands
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
In deference to other online platforms discussing the history of the Anglo-Zulu War of 1879
The missing five hours.
ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS
The ammunition question
Recent Members To The ZULU WAR 1879 Discussion & Reference Forum ( A Small Victorian War in 1879)
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
Top posting users this month
Julian Whybra
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_leftStructures near the Manzimyama Stream BarStructures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_right 
Tig Van Milcroft
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_leftStructures near the Manzimyama Stream BarStructures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_right 
Dash
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_leftStructures near the Manzimyama Stream BarStructures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_right 
SRB1965
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_leftStructures near the Manzimyama Stream BarStructures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_right 
warrior3
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_leftStructures near the Manzimyama Stream BarStructures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_right 
John Young
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_leftStructures near the Manzimyama Stream BarStructures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_right 
Eddie
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_leftStructures near the Manzimyama Stream BarStructures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_right 
1879graves
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_leftStructures near the Manzimyama Stream BarStructures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_right 
aussie inkosi
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_leftStructures near the Manzimyama Stream BarStructures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_right 
lydenburg
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_leftStructures near the Manzimyama Stream BarStructures near the Manzimyama Stream Bar_right 
New topics
» The Passing of Lady Ellen Baker.
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptySat Nov 23, 2024 11:35 pm by John Young

» Dr. A. Ralph Busby
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptySat Nov 16, 2024 11:36 am by Julian Whybra

» Colonel Edward William Bray, 2nd/4th Regt.
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyWed Nov 13, 2024 8:49 pm by John Young

» Samuel Popple
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyTue Nov 12, 2024 3:36 pm by STEPHEN JAMES

» Colonel Charles Knight Pearson
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyFri Nov 08, 2024 5:56 pm by LincolnJDH

» John West at Kambula
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyMon Nov 04, 2024 11:54 pm by MKalny15

» How to find medal entitlement Coker
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyFri Nov 01, 2024 9:32 am by Kev T

» Frederick Marsh - HMS Tenedos
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyThu Oct 31, 2024 1:42 pm by lydenburg

» Did Ntishingwayo really not know Lord C wasn't at home
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyMon Oct 28, 2024 8:18 am by SRB1965

Similar topics
Zero tolerance to harassment and bullying.
Due to recent events on this forum, we have now imposed a zero tolerance to harassment and bullying. All reports will be treated seriously, and will lead to a permanent ban of both membership and IP address. Any member blatantly corresponding in a deliberate and provoking manner will be removed from the forum as quickly as possible after the event.  If any members are being harassed behind the scenes PM facility by any member/s here at 1879zuluwar.com please do not hesitate to forward the offending text.  We are all here to communicate and enjoy the various discussions and information on the Anglo Zulu War of 1879. Opinions will vary, you will agree and disagree with one another, we will have debates, and so it goes. There is no excuse for harassment or bullying of anyone by another person on this site. The above applies to the main frame areas of the forum. The ring which is the last section on the forum, is available to those members who wish to partake in slagging matches. That section cannot be viewed by guests and only viewed by members that wish to do so. 
Fair Use Notice
Fair use notice. This website may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not been specifically authorised by the copyright owner. We are making such material and images are available in our efforts to advance the understanding of the “Anglo Zulu War of 1879. For educational & recreational purposes. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material, as provided for in UK copyright law. The information is purely for educational and research purposes only. No profit is made from any part of this website. If you hold the copyright on any material on the site, or material refers to you, and you would like it to be removed, please let us know and we will work with you to reach a resolution.
 

 Structures near the Manzimyama Stream

Go down 
4 posters
AuthorMessage
rusteze

rusteze


Posts : 2871
Join date : 2010-06-02

Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Empty
PostSubject: Structures near the Manzimyama Stream   Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyTue Jun 05, 2018 10:49 am

Some very interesting photos of the Manzimyama Stream area from Frank. The first is a remarkable (and early) photo of an impi making its way along the Manzimyama stream that I have not seen before. Frank has taken a recent comparison shot which I have put alongside. The third picture is what looks like a demolished cairn on the west bank of the stream.I will leave Frank to comment further.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

Steve Reinstadtler
Back to top Go down
Frank Allewell

Frank Allewell


Posts : 8572
Join date : 2009-09-21
Age : 77
Location : Cape Town South Africa

Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Empty
PostSubject: Re: Structures near the Manzimyama Stream   Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyTue Jun 05, 2018 11:39 am

On Boasts sketch he does indicate a number of cairns on the western side of the Manzimyama. In the early photo theres at least 6 fairly large cairns which would indicate around 30 to40 bodies. Would this in fact be the last stand? Or would it be all the exhausted fugitives being put to the sword. I have located some scattered piles of rocks in the aprox position, they could of course be anything but as per the one in the picture they do seem to have a structure about what is left.
Again of interest is the amount of bush covering the battlefield.
Cheers
Back to top Go down
SRB1965

SRB1965


Posts : 1254
Join date : 2017-05-13
Age : 59
Location : Uttoxeter - the last place God made and he couldn't be bothered to finish it.....

Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Empty
PostSubject: Re: Structures near the Manzimyama Stream   Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyTue Jun 05, 2018 11:44 am

Hi Steve/Frank

Any ideas of the date of the 'impi' photo and what the warriors were up to?

Could it possibly be a still from the 'Symbol of Sacrifice' - movie?

ta

Simon
Back to top Go down
Frank Allewell

Frank Allewell


Posts : 8572
Join date : 2009-09-21
Age : 77
Location : Cape Town South Africa

Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Empty
PostSubject: Re: Structures near the Manzimyama Stream   Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyTue Jun 05, 2018 11:50 am

Sime
I don't know, the file I found them in has a number of old photos, including a shot of a cannon being towed along the old dirt road to iSandlwana from RD. At a guess looking at the collection I would put it around the Bambatha rebellion time, but that's such a guess. Hopefully JY can shed some light. Im happy to post the rest if it will help to date them.
Back to top Go down
John Young

John Young


Posts : 3316
Join date : 2013-09-08
Age : 68
Location : Слава Україні! Героям слава!

Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Empty
PostSubject: Re: Structures near the Manzimyama Stream   Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyTue Jun 05, 2018 12:32 pm

Sime,

I would doubt it was from Symbol of Sacrifice as - to my knowledge - the iSandlwana scenes were filmed in the Transvaal.  For some reason the Prince Imperial scenes were filmed in KZN.

Looking at the photograph enlarged there appear to be quite a few Europeans amongst the Zulu.

I think it is one of Gugu’s early rehearsals for next year.  Joker

JY
Back to top Go down
SRB1965

SRB1965


Posts : 1254
Join date : 2017-05-13
Age : 59
Location : Uttoxeter - the last place God made and he couldn't be bothered to finish it.....

Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Empty
PostSubject: Re: Structures near the Manzimyama Stream   Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyTue Jun 05, 2018 12:38 pm

For my shame - I have the film on DVD but I have never been able to get my wife & kids off the TV, long enough for me to watch it yet......
Back to top Go down
rusteze

rusteze


Posts : 2871
Join date : 2010-06-02

Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Empty
PostSubject: Re: Structures near the Manzimyama Stream   Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyTue Jun 05, 2018 1:36 pm

Two more early photos from Frank. The film speed was sufficient to capture the moving gun team so I guess the photos must be 1900 or later.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

Steve Reinstadtler
Back to top Go down
Frank Allewell

Frank Allewell


Posts : 8572
Join date : 2009-09-21
Age : 77
Location : Cape Town South Africa

Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Empty
PostSubject: Re: Structures near the Manzimyama Stream   Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyTue Jun 05, 2018 1:49 pm

John if I may be so presumptious to post one of your photos from a similar angle?
Back to top Go down
John Young

John Young


Posts : 3316
Join date : 2013-09-08
Age : 68
Location : Слава Україні! Героям слава!

Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Empty
PostSubject: Re: Structures near the Manzimyama Stream   Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyTue Jun 05, 2018 2:00 pm

Frank,

Post away old chap.

Looking at the gun crew I would hazard a guess at the Natal Field Artillery, circa the 1906 Rebellion.

I can’t make out if that is a gun-shield or limber playing tricks on my eyes. If it is gun-shield we could looking the Great War period.

JY
Back to top Go down
rusteze

rusteze


Posts : 2871
Join date : 2010-06-02

Structures near the Manzimyama Stream Empty
PostSubject: Re: Structures near the Manzimyama Stream   Structures near the Manzimyama Stream EmptyTue Jun 05, 2018 3:49 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
John Young Collection
Back to top Go down
 
Structures near the Manzimyama Stream
Back to top 
Page 1 of 1
 Similar topics
-
» Final position on Manzimyama: Anstey
» Swimming with a horse across a stream Fugitives Drift Buffalo River

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM  :: GENERAL DISCUSSION AREA-
Jump to: