Latest topics | » Studies in the Zulu War volumesWed Oct 16, 2024 3:26 pm by Julian Whybra » Martini Henry carbine IC1 markingsMon Oct 14, 2024 10:48 pm by Parkerbloggs » James Conner 1879 claspMon Oct 14, 2024 7:12 pm by Kenny » Alphonse de Neuville- Painting the Defence of Rorke's DriftMon Oct 14, 2024 3:51 pm by Julian Whybra » 80th REG of Foot (Staffords)Sun Oct 13, 2024 9:07 pm by shadeswolf » Frontier Light Horse uniformSun Oct 13, 2024 8:12 pm by Schlaumeier » Gelsthorpe, G. 1374 Private 1/24th / Scott, Sidney W. 521 Private 1/24thSun Oct 13, 2024 1:00 pm by Dash » Studies in the Zulu War volume VI now availableSat Oct 12, 2024 9:35 am by Julian Whybra » A Bullet BibleSat Oct 12, 2024 8:33 am by Julian Whybra » Brothers SearsFri Oct 11, 2024 7:17 pm by Eddie » Zulu War Medal MHS TamarFri Oct 11, 2024 3:48 pm by philip c » Ford Park Cemetery, Plymouth.Tue Oct 08, 2024 4:15 pm by rai » Shipping - transport in the AZWSun Oct 06, 2024 10:47 pm by Bill8183 » 1879 South Africa Medal named 1879 BARSun Oct 06, 2024 12:41 pm by Dash » A note on Captain Norris Edward Davey, Natal Volunteer Staff.Sun Oct 06, 2024 12:16 pm by Julian Whybra » Isandlwana papers he,d by the RE museum Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:06 am by 90th » An Irish V.C. conundrum?Thu Oct 03, 2024 10:51 am by Julian Whybra » William Moore / William Potter 24th RegimentThu Sep 26, 2024 3:04 pm by Dash » Stalybridge men in the 24thThu Sep 26, 2024 2:24 pm by Dash » Grave of Henry SpaldingWed Sep 25, 2024 3:24 pm by Kenny » Thomas P Kensole and James J MitchellMon Sep 23, 2024 4:04 pm by Samnoco » flocking stands to historical accuracySun Sep 22, 2024 8:05 pm by GCameron » Private 25B/483 Joseph Phelan 1/24th RegimentFri Sep 20, 2024 5:22 pm by Dash » Updated list of Zulu War Veterans who came to Australia or New ZealandFri Sep 20, 2024 12:31 am by krish » A story regarding Younghusband's charge. Hearsay or a possibility? Thu Sep 19, 2024 3:26 pm by Julian Whybra » Nine of the 24thThu Sep 19, 2024 10:24 am by Julian Whybra » Colour Sergeant 2296 James Hannon HawkinsThu Sep 19, 2024 8:00 am by Samnoco » S.S. Solway Campbell/O'Keefe/Quigley 24th RegimentWed Sep 18, 2024 8:56 pm by Dash » Private 25B/2185 Owen Salmons alias Martin MacNamara? 1/24thWed Sep 18, 2024 8:44 pm by Bill8183 » Fort Evelyn and the grave of the 58th Regiment Drum MajorSun Sep 15, 2024 5:59 pm by 1879graves » Telescope v. field glassesSun Sep 15, 2024 10:20 am by 90th » Photo Lonsdales HorseTue Sep 10, 2024 10:10 pm by ciroferrara » Soldier 13th regiment of foot Natal new photo Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:32 pm by ciroferrara » Private 1941 Samuel MacClue / McClune 1/24th RegimentMon Sep 09, 2024 1:33 pm by Dash » Lieutenant & Adjutant Spencer Frederick Chichester, 2nd 21stMon Sep 09, 2024 11:56 am by Rory Reynolds |
October 2024 | Mon | Tue | Wed | Thu | Fri | Sat | Sun |
---|
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | 31 | | | | Calendar |
|
Top posting users this month | |
New topics | » James Conner 1879 claspMon Oct 14, 2024 8:54 am by peterconner » Frontier Light Horse uniformSun Oct 13, 2024 8:12 pm by Schlaumeier » 80th REG of Foot (Staffords)Sun Oct 13, 2024 7:39 pm by shadeswolf » Gelsthorpe, G. 1374 Private 1/24th / Scott, Sidney W. 521 Private 1/24thSun Oct 13, 2024 1:00 pm by Dash » Martini Henry carbine IC1 markingsSat Oct 12, 2024 11:03 am by Parkerbloggs » Alphonse de Neuville- Painting the Defence of Rorke's DriftThu Oct 10, 2024 10:14 am by Stefaan » A Bullet BibleSun Oct 06, 2024 8:02 pm by Eddie » Shipping - transport in the AZWSun Oct 06, 2024 3:23 pm by Bill8183 » Isandlwana papers he,d by the RE museum Thu Oct 03, 2024 3:01 pm by Danny1960 |
Zero tolerance to harassment and bullying. |
Due to recent events on this forum, we have now imposed a zero tolerance to harassment and bullying. All reports will be treated seriously, and will lead to a permanent ban of both membership and IP address.
Any member blatantly corresponding in a deliberate and provoking manner will be removed from the forum as quickly as possible after the event.
If any members are being harassed behind the scenes PM facility by any member/s here at 1879zuluwar.com please do not hesitate to forward the offending text.
We are all here to communicate and enjoy the various discussions and information on the Anglo Zulu War of 1879. Opinions will vary, you will agree and disagree with one another, we will have debates, and so it goes.
There is no excuse for harassment or bullying of anyone by another person on this site.
The above applies to the main frame areas of the forum.
The ring which is the last section on the forum, is available to those members who wish to partake in slagging matches. That section cannot be viewed by guests and only viewed by members that wish to do so. |
Fair Use Notice | Fair use notice.
This website may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not been specifically authorised by the copyright owner.
We are making such material and images are available in our efforts to advance the understanding of the “Anglo Zulu War of 1879. For educational & recreational purposes.
We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material, as provided for in UK copyright law. The information is purely for educational and research purposes only. No profit is made from any part of this website.
If you hold the copyright on any material on the site, or material refers to you, and you would like it to be removed, please let us know and we will work with you to reach a resolution. |
| | Natal Mounted Police Casualties around Durnford and Carey | |
| | Author | Message |
---|
gardner1879
Posts : 3463 Join date : 2021-01-04
| Subject: Natal Mounted Police Casualties around Durnford and Carey Sun Dec 04, 2022 5:45 pm | |
| Found this whilst carrying out some research on Conference Hill. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Western Morning News - Saturday 16 August 1879 |
| | | Julian Whybra
Posts : 4124 Join date : 2011-09-12 Location : Billericay, Essex
| Subject: Re: Natal Mounted Police Casualties around Durnford and Carey Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:14 am | |
| Just goes to show you can't believe everything you read in the papers... |
| | | KyleB
Posts : 1 Join date : 2021-02-05
| Subject: Re: Natal Mounted Police Casualties around Durnford and Carey Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:41 pm | |
| Hello gardner1879,
Now this is right up my street! I would be really interested if you manage to find some names and the likely place where they fell. I have a relative who fought and died there with the Natal Mounted Police, he was a farrier - George Henry Banger.
Kind regards, Kyle |
| | | Julian Whybra
Posts : 4124 Join date : 2011-09-12 Location : Billericay, Essex
| Subject: Re: Natal Mounted Police Casualties around Durnford and Carey Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:27 pm | |
| Kyle The Natal Carbineers found buried round Durnford were identified (see my Granger essay in Studs in the ZW vol V). Others round Durnford were 24th men and NMP but there was no individual identification and record made. I find Kate's clipping frustrating because it is unsourced (Pearson and Hackett would not have been privy to info about Isandhlwana burials) and quite late (August) in its reporting. |
| | | gardner1879
Posts : 3463 Join date : 2021-01-04
| Subject: Re: Natal Mounted Police Casualties around Durnford and Carey Sun Dec 18, 2022 5:51 pm | |
| see this link Kyle you may find it interesting. https://www.1879zuluwar.com/t12191-burial-of-the-dead-at-isandlwana#104638It leads me to the following observations The 7th of June burial party stated over 20 men of the NMP were nearly all identified. The above report seems to pin this down to a number, 23. I find the term 'found surrounding that of the body of Lieutenat-Colonel Durnford' very vague. It paints a picture of a tight clump of bodies all lying in a circle having died almost shoulder to shoulder with Durnford in the middle. I think that circle of bodies is much more widespread than envisaged which would then tie in with the various reports of who was surrounding Durnford. (though you could say that all the casualties were 'surrounding his body' if you make him a centre point on the battlefield) The burial report (link above) states the NMP were found in a clump to the left of the road. To the right of the road was Durnford and then the clump of NC. The report states that the NC were 'close to' Durnford which is contrary to Granger's claim that the NC were all around him. Read a certain way one could almost assume that Durnford was between the two clumps of resistance when he was cut down. I am sure someone attached to the burial party would have had a pencil and paper and would have been writing down names of those identified in order to inform family members and loved ones. Such a list written by the scribe as the corpses were indentified would be invaluable as it would give us an idea as to who fell were. Hopefully one day that list may appear. |
| | | Julian Whybra
Posts : 4124 Join date : 2011-09-12 Location : Billericay, Essex
| Subject: Re: Natal Mounted Police Casualties around Durnford and Carey Sun Dec 18, 2022 8:11 pm | |
| Kate Yes, absolutely, to the left of the road. |
| | | Julian Whybra
Posts : 4124 Join date : 2011-09-12 Location : Billericay, Essex
| Subject: Re: Natal Mounted Police Casualties around Durnford and Carey Sun Dec 18, 2022 8:24 pm | |
| All the accounts place the NMP north of the track after the withdrawal from the donga to the stands in front of the camp. |
| | | | Natal Mounted Police Casualties around Durnford and Carey | |
|
Similar topics | |
|
| Permissions in this forum: | You cannot reply to topics in this forum
| |
| |
| |