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PostSubject: Thomas P Kensole and James J Mitchell   Thomas P Kensole and James J Mitchell EmptyThu Sep 19, 2024 8:27 am

I work voluntarily at Ford Park Cemetery Plymouth and have been maintaining the graves of the veterans who served during the Anglo Zulu war. I have found and cleaned 13 so far. These can be viewed on the Find a Grave website.
However I was give the names of
1.Signalman James J. Mitchell of HMS Tenedos died 28 Sept 1930 and
2. PO Second Class Thomas P Kensole of HMS Tamar died 21 May 1925.
Enquiries at the cemetery office have not revealed a burial location here.
I received the names and dates of the 2 individuals from a third party who told me he got the information originally from The Keynsham Light Horse.
Can anyone confirm that the Ford Park Cemetery information is correct or were they buried elsewhere and reinterred there after WW2 which decimated large areas and Church's in Plymouth. As was the case with Francis Attwood DCM and George Edwin Patey.
Thank you.
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PostSubject: Re: Thomas P Kensole and James J Mitchell   Thomas P Kensole and James J Mitchell EmptySat Sep 21, 2024 6:55 am

Hi Samnoco
Just in the process of Researching the Family History for all the Royal Navy in the Zulu War, well on the way just HMS Shah to do.
James J Mitchell b.1856 D.28 Sept 1930, Buried Ford Park Cem 1 Oct 1930 appears on the Findagrave website.
I also have Edward Mitchell b.plymouth 23 Nov 1853 probably dying september quarter 1908 age 55 in East Stonehouse District Plymouth he is also RN HMS Tenedos.
Thomas P Kensole RN also appears on the Findagrave website for Ford Park Cemetery.
Are you saying you have checked with the cemetery and it appears they have no records of burial??
One thought is it possible they were reinterred from Milehouse Cemetery??
Will check my records and get back on the subject.
Rai Keynshamlighthorse.
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PostSubject: Re: Thomas P Kensole and James J Mitchell   Thomas P Kensole and James J Mitchell EmptySat Sep 21, 2024 7:23 am

Hi Again,
Thomas Kensole seems to be a mystery not getting any records for him.
James John Mitchell b.16 Aug 1856 Vol RN 20 sept 1871 age 15, 1911 census he beer retailer Exeter St Plymouth, M.to Mary Jane 5 kids, Newspaper d.28 sept 1930 at 6 seaton Avenue plymouth late of Exeter St, husband of mary Jane service at house 1 Oct leaving for Plymouth Old Cem. Probate D.28 sept 1930 at 6 seaton Avenue Mutley Plymouth to William James Mitchell Licensed Victualler.
Today Plymouth Old Cemetery is Ford Park Cemetery opened in the 1840's.
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PostSubject: Re: Thomas P Kensole and James J Mitchell   Thomas P Kensole and James J Mitchell EmptySun Sep 22, 2024 10:51 am

Hello again.
My error it should be Kenshole. The addition to the Find a Grave website was my doing as it was my intention to add information as I got it. The Mitchell addition was done by a Barb Walker and she hasn't replied to my enquiries as to how she obtained the information.
Regards Bob H.
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PostSubject: Re: Thomas P Kensole and James J Mitchell   Thomas P Kensole and James J Mitchell EmptySun Sep 22, 2024 8:05 pm

Hi Samncoco

I have updated Find a Grave for Kenshole and Mitchell.

Can you please list the 13 graves that you have cleaned so far.

Keep up the great work that you are doing.

Kind regards

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PostSubject: Re: Thomas P Kensole and James J Mitchell   Thomas P Kensole and James J Mitchell EmptyMon Sep 23, 2024 8:50 am

Hi All
To clear up Thomas Prince Kenshole RN HMS Tamar 1879, B.24 June 1855 Stonehouse Plymouth, Vol RN 21 July 1870 age 15, Census 1871 Boy RN at fathers Stoke Demerel Plymouth, C.1881 Capt's Cox HMS Tamar, M.Alice Mary Crossman [age 20] 26 june 1883 Anglican Church Stoke Demerel, C.1891 he RN stoke Demerel M.Mary 2 kids, C.1901 he Caretaker Town Hall East Stonehouse M.Alice Mary 5 kids, Census 1911 and 1921 same, Probate Dies 21 May 1925 at Wingfield Nursing Home Stonehouse, of 11 Hobart Street, to widow Alice Mary, Newspaper Buried 25 May 1925 Old Plymouth Cemetery, [Ford Park].
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PostSubject: Re: Thomas P Kensole and James J Mitchell   Thomas P Kensole and James J Mitchell EmptyMon Sep 23, 2024 4:04 pm

Today I went in and cleared around the graves of Kenshole, Mitchell and Miller. I have uploaded pictures to the Find a Grave. However enclosed is an up to date list with all burial locations. 15 in total.
Zulu War Veterans
buried at
Ford Park Cemetery, Plymouth, Devon England.

Bevis, William Henry. D/B. 15/19 Mar. 1901. Asst. Sick Berth Attd. HMS Boadicea.
Section. General Higher B. Row 26. Number 11.

Grant, John Bartlett. D/B. 12/15 Feb. 1906. Engineer HMS Tamar.
Section. General Higher A. Row 13. Number 16.

Inch, William West. D. 18 May 1906. Asst. Paymaster HNS Euphrates.
Section. Church Lower B. Row 5. Number 11.

James, John Fenicot. D. 24 Feb. 1880. Captain 13th Prince Albert’s.
Section. Church Higher G. Row 2. Number 16/17.

Kenshole, Thomas P. D. 21 May 1925 PO 2nd Class MHS Tamar.
Section General Higher A. Row 19. Number 37.

Marrack William. D. 23 Jan. 1926. Lieutenant HMS Active.
Section. Church M. Row 10. Number 19.

McQuire, William George. D/B. 18/24 Feb. 1902 Engineer HMS Shah.
Section. General Higher A. Row 21. Number 18.

Miller, Samuel John. D/B. 10/14 May 1910 Quartermaster Sgt. 57th Middlesex Regiment.
Section. General H Row 26 Number 36.

Mitchell, James John. D/B. 28 Sep.1 Oct. 1930 Signalman HMS Tenedos.
Section General H. Row 31. Number 27.

Patey, George Edwin. D. 4 Feb. 1935 Buried St George’s East Stonehouse Plymouth.
Section. Church Higher B vaults. Family memorial.

Rendle, Charles H. D/B. 27/39 Dec. 1930 PO 1st Class HMS Tenedos.
Section General Higher A, Row 39, Grave number 34.

Sadler, Alfred. D/B. 17 Mar. 1905 Asst. Commissary Ordnance Store Dept.
Section. Church Lower A Row 1 Number 6.

Vickery, George Broughton. D/B. 20/23 Sep. 1920 Boatswain HMS Tamar.
Section General Higher B Row 53 Number 29.

Whebby, Thomas. D/B. 28/31 Jul. 1932 Asst. Engineer HMS Tamar.
Section. Church F Row 20 Number 16.

Wilson David Septimus. D/B. 8/12 Jan. 1895 Fleet Surgeon HMS Himalaya.
Section. Church E Row 16 Number 11.

I know these are right, the only unmarked grave seems to be Charles H Rendle however as with my discovery of Alfred Sadler's grave last week I shall have another look.
Bob H. (Samnoco).
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