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littlehand
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| Subject: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:46 pm | |
| I'm a bit confused. Came across this. Is he Buried in Saltwood Kent or Ryde Isle of White. ???? ISLE OF WIGHT OBSERVER Saturday 16th Jan 1886, page 8 Death Notice:- BARROW .. On the 13th inst., at Cairo after one days illness, Percy Harry Stanley BARROW, Colonel of the 19th Hussars. ISLE OF WIGHT OBSERVER Saturday 16th Jan 1886, page 5 DEATH OF COLONEL BARROW Our obituary records the death at Cairo, on 13th inst., of Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW, of the 19th Reg., a nephew of our respected Mayor, after only one day's illness. The Standard correspondent's account appears in today's issue as follows:- I regret to state that Colonel BARROW, who re-opened an old wound while engaged in the game of tent-pegging, died last night. His funeral this afternoon was attended by almost every officer of the garrison. His loss will be greatly felt, especially in his regiment, the 19th Hussars, for which he has done so much during the short time he has held the Coloneley. At the funeral, Count BELLEGARDE and a large number of dignitaries both civil and military, were present. The funeral ceremony took place with full military honours. ISLE OF WIGHT COUNTY PRESS Saturday 24th April 1886, page 8 THE LATE COL. BARROW, C.B., C.M.G. A native correspondent of high rank, writing recently from Cairo in reference to the late Col. BARROW, says:- When the late Col. BARROW took command of the 19th Hussars, he devoted himself to looking after the comforts of his officers and men.. He made an arrangement with a Greek to keep the canteen, by paying so much a month from the mess fund. This gave the greatest satisfaction, as the best things could be got at the most reasonable prices. When the regiment went to Suakim, the Colonel took the same contractor with him, with a good supply, amongst other things, of Bass’s ale and Crosse and Blackwell’s manufactures. He also made similar arrangements when in the Soudan last year. The same canteen steward crossed the desert from Korosko to Dongola with 150 camels, and when he met Col. BARROW and his regiment, both officers and men gladly welcomed the Greek and his stores. On its return to Cairo, the regiment occupied the best quarters at Abbassiyeh; and to keep the men from the slums of Cairo, the late Colonel arranged with the contractor to erect a large theatre to accommodate 300 men, and made it free for all regiments. Col. BARROW, before his untimely death, presented the regiment with a magnificient shield, to be held by the best shooting troop each year. The shield is 2ft. 6in. in diameter, and of an ancient Danish pattern, with a black ebony boarder, on the top of which are the honours of the regiment and at the bottom the inscription:- 19th Princess of Wales Own Hussars, Troop Challenge Shield, presented by Col. P. H. S. BARROW, C.B.,C.M.G., 1885. In the first year, the shield was won by B troop, which served in the desert under the late General STEWART, and the correspondent concludes by saying that “Whatever troop is fortunate enough to win it in future years, it will treasure it with pride as a heirloom of its gallant deceased Colonel.” [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] |
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:59 pm | |
| Littlehand.only you could find this.I'm not sure if they are saying he is or just his relatives, I have sent e-mail to Ryde Social Heritage Group. Hope they will give us the answer, unless they think he is buried there. Hopefully 1879Graves & Rai might have an answer ? |
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:43 am | |
| Hi All, The KLH also found this one at Ryde on a visit looking for someone else, we feel that this is relatives, and he is buried at Saltwood as is his brother. Rai Keynshamlighthorse |
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:25 am | |
| Reply.. "Hello Peter
Thank you for your message, no we are not saying Col Barrow is buried in Ryde Cemetery, just that he is mentioned on the memorial.
We record all the names that appear on the memorials in Ryde Cemetery (whether or not the people are actually buried there). We then carry out research to try and find out more information about the lives and deaths of the people mentioned.
I think from reading the documents added to the record by our Research team that Col Barrow was actually buried in Cairo where he died. He died on 13th and was buried on 16th so I doubt it would have been possible to return his body to the UK in that time. I believe he is just remembered on the memorials of his relatives in both Ryde and Kent cemeteries.
If you have any other information about Col Barrow that we could add to our records we would be pleased to receive it."Best wishes Janette Janette Gregson Chairman Ryde Social Heritage Group [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] |
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:32 am | |
| Interesting.
Lieutenant-Colonel William Thomas Marshall VC (5 December 1854 - 11 September 1920)
He was 29 years old, and a Quartermaster-Sergeant in the 19th Hussars, British Army during the Mahdist War when the following deed took place for which he was awarded the VC.
On 29 February 1884 at El Teb, Sudan, the Commanding Officer of the 19th Hussars (Lt. Col. Percy Barrow) was severely wounded, his horse was killed and he was on the ground surrounded by the enemy. Quartermaster-Sergeant Marshall, rode to his assistance, seized his hand and dragged him through the enemy back to the regiment, saving him from certain death.
He later became Quartermaster and Captain in the 19th Hussars. In 1905, as a Major, he became Camp Quartermaster of Aldershot. He retired in 1907. In 1918 he was promoted Lieutenant-Colonel.
His Victoria Cross is displayed at the 15th/19th King's Royal Hussars Museum at Newcastle-upon-Tyne, England.
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:49 pm | |
| Is there anyway of finding out if his funeral did take place in Cairo. It makes sense to have buried him there due to the hot climate. But saying that, his remains could have been brought back years later.
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:08 pm | |
| Hi Littlehand Now that is what I call a great find. (I did not know about the one on the IoW) Admin Good work with Janette Gregson, Chairman, Ryde Social Heritage Group Sas1 Now that is a good question, I am working on that one now. Rai Have you seen the his burial record at Saltwood Church? Admin Could you return and view the records if they have them? |
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:19 pm | |
| Hi Andy, Families usually put up memorials inside churches, or mention there love ones on a previous family grave, if the body has not been returned to this country,, It is a rare occurance for the family to put up an individual gravestone without a body. Rai Keynshamlighthorse |
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:56 pm | |
| Hi Rai I have to agree with you on what you have said. I wanted to know if anyone has seen a burial record for him, so that we can prove where he is buried. Still looking to see if he was buried in Egypt? (First) |
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:16 pm | |
| - Quote :
- individual gravestone without a body.
Rai Exactly what I was thinking. 1879Graves I’m going back on Saturday. |
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:25 pm | |
| Have I put a spanner in the works.
Came across this, busy looking for infromation.
In the north aisle the east window was inserted in memory of Colonel Percy Harry Stanley Barrow, C.B.,C.M.G., of the 19tli Hussars, by his mother, brothers, and sisters, in September 1887. His body lies in the churchyard. Source: Kent Archaeological Society
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:14 pm | |
| Just some more information on Barrow. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] |
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:24 pm | |
| Just wanted to say, This issue seems to be getting interesting. Looking forward to the outcome... Well done to all involved. |
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:29 pm | |
| Been surfing the web looking for bit of interest concerning Barrows. Heres a few items. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Some about him in the Zuluwar. Source: Northeast Medals. SIR, I HAVE the honour to report my arrival here at 10 A.M. this day, with the column under my command, and, I am happy to state, without a casualty of any kind—except, of course, those which occurred in the engagement of yesterday, of which I have already duly informed you by telegram, despatched yesterday evening. Yesterday morning, the mounted troops which preceded the column under Major Barrow, had crossed the Inyezane River—which is about four miles from our camping ground on the previous night—when I received a note from him to say that he had selected a fairly open space for a halting place, which he had carefully vedetted. I at once rode forward, to reconnoitre, and found the ground covered with more bush than seemed desirable for an outspan ; but as there was no water between the Inyezane and the places where we bivouacked last night—four miles further on, and with several steep hills to climb—I decided upon outspanning for a couple of hours, to feed and rest the oxen, and to enable the men to breakfast. It was then just eight o'clock, and I was in the act of giving directions about the pickets and scouts required for our protection, and the wagons had already begun to park, when the leading company of the Native Contingent, who were scouting in front—personally directed by Captain Hart, Staff Officer to the Officer commanding that Regiment — discovered the enemy advancing rapidly over the ridges in our front, and making for the clumps of bush around us. The Zulus at once opened a heavy fire upon the men of the company who had shown themselves in the open, and they lost one officer, four non-commissioned officers, and three men killed, almost immediately after the firing began. Unfortunately, owing to scarcely any of the officers or non-commissioned officers of the Native Contingent being able to speak Kafir, and some not even English (there are several foreigners among them), it has been found most difficult to communicate orders, and it is to be feared that these men who lost their lives by gallantly holding their ground did so under the impression that it was the duty of the contingent to fight in the first line, instead of scouting only, and, after an engagement, to pursue. I must add, however, that every exertion has been made by Major Graves, Commandant Nettleton, and Captain Hart, to explain to both the officers and men the duties expected of them. These officers, indeed, have been indefatigable in their exertions. As soon as the firing commenced, I directed the Naval Brigade, under Commander Campbell, Lieutenant Lloyd's division of guns, and Captain Jackson's and Lieutenant Martin's companies of the Buffs, to take up a position on a knoll close by the road (and under which they were halted), and from whence the whole of the Zulu advances could be seen and dealt with. Meanwhile, the wagons continued to park, and as soon as the length of the column had thereby sufficiently decreased, I directed the two companies of the Buffs, which were guarding the wagons about half way down the column, to clear the enemy out of the bush, which had been already shelled, and fired into with rockets and musketry, by the troops on the knoll above-mentioned. These companies, led by Captains Harrison and Wyld, and guided by Captain Macgregor, D.A.Q.M.G., whom I sent back for this purpose, moved out in excellent order, and quickly getting into skirmishing order, brought their right shoulders gradually forward, and drove the Zulus before them back into the open, which again exposed them to the rockets, shells, and musketry from the knoll. This movement released the main body of the Mounted Infantry and Volunteers, who, with the Company of Royal Engineers, had remained near the Inyezane, to protect that portion of the convoy of wagons. -The Royal Engineers happened to be working at the drift when the engagement began. When thus released, both the Engineers and Mounted Troops, under Captain Wynne and Major Barrow, respectively moved forward with the infantry. Skirmishers on the left of the latter, the whole being supported by a half-company of the Buffs and a half-company of the 99th Regiment, sent out by Lieutenant-Colonel Welman, 99th Regiment, who with the rear of the column, was now coming up. About this time the enemy was observed by Commander Campbell lo be trying to outflank our left, and he offered to go with a portion of the Naval Brigade to drive away a body of Zulus who had got possession of a kraal about 400 yards from the knoll, and which was helping their turning movement. The Naval Brigade was supported by a party of the officers and non-commissioned officers of the Native Contingent, under Captain Hart, who were posted on high ground on the left of the Etshowe Road, and who checked the Zulus from making any further attempt on our left. Shortly afterwards, when the kraal was evacuated, Commander Campbell suggested that the enemy should be driven off still further, to which I at once assented, and I desired Colonel Parnell to take Captain Forster's company, the Buffs, which up to this time had remained at the foot of the knoll, and assist the Naval Brigade to attack some heights beyond the kraal, upon which a considerable body of Zulus were still posted. The action was completely successful, and the Zulus now fled in all directions, both from our front and left, and before the skirmishers on the right. I now ordered the column to be reformed, and at noon we resumed our march, and bivouacked for the night on the ground described in the first part of my letter. The last shot I fired was about half-past 9 A.M. I enclose a list of the killed and wounded, and, in addition, I beg to state that both Colonel Parnell and myself had our horses shot under us. The loss of the enemy I can, of course, only approximately give. By all accounts, however — and I have taken every pains to verify and confirm the statements made—upwards of 300 Zulus were killed. The wounded, if there were any, were either carried off or hid in the bush, as only two were found. The dead were lying about in heaps of seven and eight, and in one place ten dead bodies were found close together. At another 35 were counted within a very small space. As far as I can ascertain, the numbers opposed to us were about 4,000, composed of the Umxapu, Umdhlanefu, and the Ingulubi Regiments, and some 650 men of the district. I had already been warned, through Mr. Fynney, Border Agent, and other sources, that I might expect to be attacked at any moment after crossing the Umsindusi River, but the number of Zulus stated to be in the neighbourhood was estimated at about 8,000. All the commanding officers speak highly of the behaviour of their men during the engagement, and of the coolness of the officers and the pains taken by them to control the expenditure of ammunition. This I can personally vouch for as regards troops on the knoll, as I was present with them the whole time. The practice made by Lieutenant Loyd's guns, and by the rockets of the Naval Brigade, directed by Mr. Cotter, boatswain of H.M.S. "Active," was excellent, and no doubt contributed materially to the success of the day. Major Barrow particularly wishes me to mention the steadiness and good conduct under fire of the Natal Mounted Volunteer Corps. Those engaged were the Victoria and Stanger Mounted Rifles and the Natal Hussars. Of the commanding officers themselves I have already, spoken. From the officers of 017 staff, Colonel Walker J.B., Captain MacGregor, and Lieutenant knight, the Buffs,—my orderly officer—I have received every assistance, not only during yesterday's engagement, but ever since they joined me. I cannot speak too highly of the energy and attention to their duties of Staff-Surgeon Norbury, R.N., my Senior Medical Officer, and his assistants. The field hospital was established in a convenient place, almost immediately after the firing began, and the wounded received every attention. Lastly, I wish to report the good example shown to the Native Pioneers by Captain Beddoes and Lieutenant Porrington, who, throughout our march, under the direction of Lieutenant Main, R.E., repaired our road in front, and during the engagement remained on the knoll, fighting rifle in hand. I must apologise for the great length of this letter ; but as the present is the first campaign of British troops against the Zulus, and as the Natal natives were being tested as soldiers for the first time, I have purposely gone into details. Should we again be engaged with the enemy there will, of course, be no further necessity for describing everything so minutely. To-morrow morning I propose sending two companies of the Buffs, two companies of the Native Contingent, and a small number of mounted men, to reinforce Lieutenant-Colonel Ely, 99th Regiment, who, with three companies of his regiment, left behind for the purpose, is now on his way to Etshowe, with a convoy of 60 commissariat wagons. I have written to request Colonel Ely not to advance beyond the Umsindusi till reinforced. On Saturday, Major Coates starts for the Tugela with 50 empty wagons, escorted by four companies infantry, two native companies, and a few troopers to bring up more stores. I enclose a couple of sketches of the ground on which the engagement took place, made by Captain McGregor and Lieutenant Knight, from memory. I have the honour to be, Sir, Your most obedient servant, C. K. PEARSON, Colonel. |
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:28 pm | |
| Good thread by the way. However i have a question ? On his Headstone it say's 19th PWO Hussars. What doe's the PWO Stand for. |
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:46 pm | |
| Nice Photo old H. Found a connection to Saltwood Kent. Children of Major-Gen. Lousada Barrow and Piercy Macdonald Rose Elinor Barrow+1 d. 17 Dec 1940 Helen Edith Barrow1 d. 29 May 1892 Colonel Percy Harry Stanley Barrow1 b. 15 Oct 1848, d. 13 Jan 1886 Colonel Charles Lousada Thesiger Barrow1 b. 1 Jul 1852, d. 28 Apr 1892 Rose Elinor Barrow was the daughter of Major-Gen. Lousada Barrow and Piercy Macdonald. She married Colonel Herbert George Deedes, son of William Deedes and Emily Octavia Taylor, on 5 December 1870.1 She died on 17 December 1940.1 From 5 December 1870, her married name became Deedes. She was invested as a Member, Order of the British Empire (M.B.E.). Helen Edith Barrow was the daughter of Major-Gen. Lousada Barrow and Piercy Macdonald.1 She married Major-Gen. Boyce Albert Combe, son of Charles James Fox Combe, on 30 October 1871, leaving issue. She died on 29 May 1892.1 From 30 October 1871, her married name became Combe. Colonel Percy Harry Stanley Barrow was born on 15 October 1848. He was the son of Major-Gen. Lousada Barrow and Piercy Macdonald. He died on 13 January 1886 at age 37 at Cairo, Egypt, of wounds received at ElTebir. He was unmarried.Colonel Percy Harry Stanley Barrow was invested as a Companion, Order of the Bath (C.B.).1 He was invested as a Companion, Order of St. Michael and St. George (C.M.G.). He gained the rank of Colonel in the service of the 19th Prince of Wales's Own Hussars Colonel Charles Lousada Thesiger Barrow was born on 1 July 1852. He was the son of Major-Gen. Lousada Barrow and Piercy Macdonald. He died on 28 April 1892 at age 39, unmarried.Colonel Charles Lousada Thesiger Barrow was invested as a Companion, Distinguished Service Order (D.S.O.). He gained the rank of Colonel in the service of the Cameronians (Scottish Rifles) Rose Elinor Barrow was the daughter of Major-Gen. Lousada Barrow and Piercy Macdonald. She married Colonel Herbert George DeedesColonel Herbert George Deedes was born on 28 September 1836.3 He was the son of William Deedes and Emily Octavia Taylor. He married Rose Elinor Barrow, daughter of Major-Gen. Lousada Barrow and Piercy Macdonald, on 5 December 1870. He died on 5 May 1891 at age 54.Colonel Herbert George Deedes was educated at Harrow School, Harrow on the Hill, London, England.5 He fought in the Indian Mutiny.5 He gained the rank of Colonel in the service of the 60th Rifles. He held the office of Assistatn Under-Secretary for War in 1878. He held the office of Justice of the Peace (J.P.). He lived at Sandling Park, Saltwood, Hythe, Kent, England. He lived at Saltwood Castle, Saltwood, Hythe, Kent, England. He also had two daughters.Saltwood Castle is a stones throw from the church.... I'm wondering if she had her brothers remains shipped to England.. Source: thePeerage.com
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:49 pm | |
| Sorry OldH. Didn't see this at first. - Quote :
- On his Headstone it say's 19th PWO Hussars. What doe's the PWO Stand for.
Prince of Wales's Own Hussars. |
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:39 pm | |
| Pete. The church in Saltwood claims.
"Crossing to the south wall of the church, we see The Barrow Windows on either side of the door. They are to Colonel Percy Stanley Barrow CB, CMG The 19th Prince of Wales Own Hussars 1887, and Colonel Charles Lousada Thesiger Barrow DSO, The Cameronians (Scottish Rifles) 1893. Both are buried in the graveyard. These windows depict the Transfiguration (St Matthew 17.1 to 18) and the Resurrection (St Matthew 28.1 to 10) respectively."
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:48 pm | |
| I have just send an e-mail to the church foundation. |
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:51 pm | |
| Lets hope you get a reply. I will send one direct to St Peter & St Paul, church Saltwood, plus make a visit on Saturday. Good Night All....Thanks for your in-put. |
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Thu Nov 04, 2010 8:34 am | |
| Just to keep you up-to-date.
Reply from the Revd Nicholas Cooper.
Dear Mr Harman
I'm afraid I do not have the time to help with specific genealogical enquires. However, our burial records for that period are deposited with the Canterbury Cathedral Archives If a body was buried at Saltwood, there should be an entry in the parish burial register. Sorry I can not be of more help.
Yours
The Revd Nicholas Cooper Priest-in-Charge - St. Peter & St. Paul, Saltwood and Parish Priest Designate - St. Stephen, Lympne The Rectory, Rectory Lane, Saltwood, Hythe, CT21 4QA
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Thu Nov 04, 2010 4:17 pm | |
| - Quote :
- I have just send an e-mail to the church foundation.
Nothing Back Yet. |
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:41 pm | |
| Has anyone got an up-date of whether or not he is buried in Saltwood Kent or Egypt? I have spent a considerable time looking for the answer. No nearer to finding the truth, it would be easier finding out what really took place at Isandlwana. |
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:29 am | |
| I see Littlehand asked the question sometime ago, but as there been any up-dates regarding the actual place of burial. |
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:30 pm | |
| Admin, did send an e-mail to whoever in Canterbury Cathedral. I'm sure if he had heard he would have posted results. |
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| Subject: percy barrow is he buried at Saltwood Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:46 pm | |
| Hi All A Final Answer i Think, Hampshire Advertiser Wed 24th Feb 1886 Page 4. There is a description about the return of Barrow's body from Egypt on the Transport Kangaroo, The Body was taken to the Habour Railway Station and forwarded to Hythe Kent. The Funeral took place yesterday [23rd Feb] in Saltwood Churchyard nr Hythe. Rai Keynshamlighthorse. |
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Sat Dec 22, 2012 8:02 pm | |
| Admin this is two counts so it, might be worth contacting those people on the isle of White. It appears his body was exhumed and brought back to England
Barrow, Percy Harry Stanley, son of Colonel Lousada Barrow, C.B., Lucknow, India; bom 15th October, 1848. Boyne House.
Cricket XI., 1866-67. Comet, 19th Hussars, 1868; Lieutenant, 1870; Captain, 1875; Brevet- Major, 1879; Major, 1881 ; Lieut. -Colonel, 1883; Colonel, 1885. Commandant, School of Instruction for Auxiliary Cavalry, Aldershot, 1874-77 \ Brigade- Major, Ciuragh District, 1877-78 ; on Special Service, South Africa, 1878-79; Aide-de-Camp to General Officer Commanding Division, Aldershot, 1881 Brigade-Major, Cavare Brigade, Aldershot, 1882-84. Served in the Zulu Campaign, South Africa, in 1879, in command of a Squadron of Mounted Infantry, and some Irregular Moimted Troops, and was pre- sent at the engagements at Inyezane and Ginghilovo wounded (mentioned in despatches. Brevet of Major, C.Af,G., and Medal with dasp). Served under Sir Evelyn Wood in the Boer War of 1881, in command of Mounted Infantry. Served in the Soudan Expedition in 1884 under Sir Gerald Graham with the 19th Hussars, and was present in the engagement at El Teb — dangerously wounded (mentioned in despatches, CB., Medal with clasp, and Khedive's Star). Accompanied Sir Herbert Stewart in the autumn of 1884 in the Desert March from Korti for the relief of General Gordon at Khartoum, and was present at the battles of Abu-Klea and Abu-Kru (mentioned in despatches). On his return to Cairo, while tent-pegging, he re-opened the wound he had previously received at El-Teb, from the efifects or which he died on the 13th January, 1886. His remains were at first interred at Cairo, but sub sequently exhumed and brought to England, where they were laid to rest with full military honours in Saltwood Churchyard, near Hythe, Kent,
Source: "Cheltenham College Register, 1841-1889" |
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:11 pm | |
| Thanks to all those concerned in resolving this issue! Received from today from Janette Gregson Chairman Ryde Social Heritage Group. "Dear Peter Many thanks for this information I have amended our record to state that the inscription for Percy Barrow is a memorial and that his remains are buries at Saltwood Churchyard. Regards Janette Janette Gregson Chairman Ryde Social Heritage Group [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]-----Original Message----- A Question: Name: Peter Harman Email: XXXzx Subject: Barrow Percy Harry Stanley Comments: To Janette Gregson. Janette, i contacted you back in 2010 regarding Percy Barrow, one of my members came across this,of which may give some confirmation of where he is buried. "Barrow, Percy Harry Stanley, son of Colonel Lousada Barrow, C.B., Lucknow, India; bom 15th October, 1848. Boyne House. Cricket XI., 1866-67. Comet, 19th Hussars, 1868; Lieutenant, 1870; Captain, 1875; Brevet- Major, 1879; Major, 1881 ; Lieut. -Colonel, 1883; Colonel, 1885. Commandant, School of Instruction for Auxiliary Cavalry, Aldershot, 1874-77 \ Brigade- Major, Ciuragh District, 1877-78 ; on Special Service, South Africa, 1878-79; Aide-de-Camp to General Officer Commanding Division, Aldershot, 1881 Brigade-Major, Cavare Brigade, Aldershot, 1882-84. Served in the Zulu Campaign, South Africa, in 1879, in command of a Squadron of Mounted Infantry, and some Irregular Moimted Troops, and was pre- sent at the engagements at Inyezane and Ginghilovo wounded (mentioned in despatches. Brevet of Major, C.Af,G., and Medal with dasp). Served under Sir Evelyn Wood in the Boer War of 1881, in command of Mounted Infantry. Served in the Soudan Expedition in 1884 under Sir Gerald Graham with the 19th Hussars, and was present in the engagement at El Teb - dangerously wounded (mentioned in despatches, CB., Medal with clasp, and Khedive's Star). Accompanied Sir Herbert Stewart in the autumn of 1884 in the Desert March from Korti for the relief of General Gordon at Khartoum, and was present at the battles of Abu-Klea and Abu-Kru (mentioned in despatches). On his return to Cairo, while tent-pegging, he re-opened the wound he had previously received at El-Teb, from the efifects or which he died on the 13th January, 1886. His remains were at first interred at Cairo, but sub sequently exhumed and brought to England, where they were laid to rest with full military honours in Saltwood Churchyard, near Hythe, Kent, Source: "Cheltenham College Register, 1841-1889" |
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:23 pm | |
| Now we know, good work!!! |
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:06 pm | |
| Resolved at last. Saltwood it is. |
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:49 pm | |
| Thanks Pete. Good of them to reply. At least they too have the correct information. |
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:42 pm | |
| Mystery solved.. Good work, to those involved. |
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Wed Nov 30, 2016 7:18 pm | |
| Pete another mystery! It's written that BARROWs died of a wound received during the Zulu War that burst open due to due to exertion while serving in Cairo. The inscription below states the wound was received during of The battle of EL TEB.
Does anyone have any details relating to Barrows being wounded during the Zulu War or EL TEB.
ALL SAINTS ROYAL GARRISON CHURCH Farnborough Rd Aldershot Rushmoor Hampshire GU11 1QA England OS Grid Ref.: SU 861 506 Denomination: Church of England
Description PLAIN WHITE MARBLE INSCRIPTION TABLET WITH A NOWY HEADED MOULDED MARBLE FRAME INSET WITH MOSIAC PATTERN. WHOLE IS MOUNTED ONTO A NOWY HEADED BLACK MARBLE BACKBOARD. MOSAIC FOLIATE BORDER WITH MOSIAC REGIMENTAL BADGE AT THE TOP CENTRE. MOSIAC PATTERN OF A RED CROSS ON A SMALLER WHITE SQUARE AT EACH CORNER OF THE BORDER.
Inscription TO THE MEMORY OF/ THEIR LATE COMMANDING OFFICER/ COLONEL/ PERCY HARRY STANLEY BARROW,/ C.B. C.M.G./ WHO DIED AT CAIRO ON THE 13TH JAN: 1886,/ FROM THE EFFECTS OF A WOUND RECEIVED IN/ ACTION WITH THE REGIMENT AT EL TEB, THE/ RE-OPENING OF WHICH WAS CAUSED BY OVER/ EXERTION AT THE REGIMENTAL ATHLETIC SPORTS./ THIS TABLET IS ERECTED/ BY THE NON-COMMISSIONED OFFICERS/ AND MEN OF THE 19TH PRINCESS OF WALES'S/ OWN HUSSARS IN TOKEN OF THEIR GRIEF FOR/ HIS LOSS. HIS BODY LIES BURIED AT/ SALTWOOD, HYTHE, KENT./ BUT HIS MEMORY WILL EVER LIVE IN THE/ HEARTS OF THOSE WHO SERVED UNDER HIM. |
| | | Dave
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Wed Nov 30, 2016 7:32 pm | |
| LH this has him being wounded at El Teb!
"Colonel Barrow served throughout the Zulu war of 1879 in command of a squadron of mounted infantry and some irregular mounted troops, and was present at the engagements of Inyezane and Gingindhlovu (mentioned in despatches, Brevet of Major, CMG., Medal with Clasp). Served under Sir Evelyn Wood in the Boer war of 1881 in command of the Mounted Infantry. Served in the Scnulau Expedition in 1884 under Sir Gerald Graham with the Hussars, and was present in the engagement at El Teb dangerously wounded (mentioned in despatches,CB., Medal with Clasp, and IChedivc's Star)" |
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Wed Nov 30, 2016 8:07 pm | |
| Littlehand You say it is written that he was wounded in the Zulu war. And the wound burst open. Can you post the source. I can't find anything like it. |
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:34 pm | |
| Chelmsford's report on Gingindlhovu reads as follows. "Colonel Northey 3/60th received a bullet wound from which he eventually died two days ago. Lt. Courteney's horse was shot as he stood beside him, Captain Barrow and Lt Col Crealock being slightly wounded at the same time". Barrow subsequently led the mounted pursuit over several miles. So it seems more likely that it was his serious wound at El Teb that later caused his death.
Steve |
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:25 pm | |
| He was wounded in the arm, I'm guessing a game of tent pegging was to see who could bang home the most tent pegs in a given time or the quickest, makes sense his wound bursting open. Still looking for evidence of burial in Cairo?
"Battle of El-Teb, 29 February 1884, the 10th Hussars and two squadrons of the 19th Hussars under Lieutenant-Colonel Percy Barrow, charged a large body of Sudanese on horses, camels and foot. The Sudanese, taking advantage of the broken ground and scrub, hamstrung many of the horses as they passed, and then attacked their fallen riders. Of those brought down in the melee few came out alive. One of those brought down was Colonel Barrow; his horse had been killed and he had received a spear thrust which pinned his arm to his side. When he fell, Quartermaster Sergeant William Marshall seized a loose horse, and was attempting to place him on it, when Private Bolsley, to whom it belonged, having been thrown from the saddle, came up on foot, and under a heavy fire supported his officer into the Infantry lines, assisted by Sergeant W. S. Fenton. For their bravery, Marshall was awarded the Victoria Cross and Bolsley and Fenton were each awarded the Distinguished Conduct Medal" |
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:02 am | |
| Littlehand,
Tent-pegging - it is skill at arms display. The tent peg is in the ground and a rider armed normally with a lance, although it could be a sword, attempts to retrieve the tent peg from the ground with the point of their weapon.
Although your suggestion sounds like fun!
John Y. |
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:09 pm | |
| Thanks John, I did a bit of searching based on your take of tent pegging! Click on link below. There's a video at the bottom of page. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] |
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Mon Dec 05, 2016 8:57 pm | |
| [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Born. 05/12/1854 Newark, Nottinghamshire. Died. 11/09/1920 Kirkcaldy, Scotland. Marshall was 29 years old, and a quartermaster-sergeant in the 19th Hussars, British Army during the Mahdist War when the following deed took place for which he was awarded the VC. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]VC ACTION On 29 February 1884 at Battle of El Teb, Sudan, the Commanding Officer of the 19th Hussars, Lt. Col. Percy Barrow, was severely wounded, his horse was killed and he was on the ground surrounded by the enemy. Quartermaster-Sergeant Marshall, rode to his assistance, seized his hand and dragged him through the enemy back to the regiment, saving him from certain death. LOCATION OF MEDAL: LIGHT DRAGOONS MUSEUM, NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE. BURIAL PLACE: BENNOCHY ROAD CEMETERY, KIRKCALDY, SCOTLAND. LAIR 23. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] |
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:31 pm | |
| After years of searching I found a photo of Col Barrow, and some text which confirms he is buried in Saltwood kent. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]source:https://archive.org/stream/nineteenththeirt00bidduoft#page/n7/mode/2up |
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:48 pm | |
| Last part of my quest. Doe's anyone know what happened to his Medals. Unless he was buried with them, they must be out there somewhere. Any help would be appreciated! NAM Two volumes of a diary kept by Percy H S Barrow, 19th (Princess of Wales's Own) Hussars, 1874-1885. Archives 1960-09-14 Can these be obtained on line with payment? |
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:44 pm | |
| Littlehand I see you have been busy. Nice photo. |
| | | John
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Tue Dec 06, 2016 9:04 pm | |
| LH great find. For some reason the link to book doesn't work for me. What's the name of the book. |
| | | littlehand
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Tue Dec 06, 2016 9:12 pm | |
| John try this. Click here |
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Tue Dec 06, 2016 9:17 pm | |
| The first link didn't work for me either. Thanks LH |
| | | rusteze
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| Subject: Re: Colonel Percy Harry Stanley BARROW Where is he buried. ??? Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:27 pm | |
| Mike Snook's "Beyond the Reach of Empire" has quite a few references to Barrow.
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