| Colonial Units of the Zulu War | |
|
+6Neil Bates littlehand 1879graves impi 90th kwajimu1879 10 posters |
Author | Message |
---|
kwajimu1879
Posts : 420 Join date : 2011-05-14
| Subject: Colonial Units of the Zulu War Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:54 am | |
| When I see the list that heads this section I see a large number of units that had no link whatsoever to the Zulu War of 1879.
Here's a list colonial and volunteer units that in my opinion served in and during the Zulu War in one capacity or another:
Alexandra Mounted Rifles
amaNgwane Scouts
amaBomvu Corps
Baker’s Horse
Border Guard
Border Guard Reserve
Border Horse, aka Weatherley’s Border Lancers
Buffalo Border Guard
Burgher Force, aka Uys’ Commando
Carbutt’s Border Rangers
Dunn’s Scouts
Durban Mounted Reserve
Durban Mounted Rifles
Durban Volunteer Artillery
Fairlie's Native Police
Ferreira’s Horse
Frontier Light Horse
Greytown District Colonial Volunteers
Indian Corps
Isipingo Mounted Rifles
Ixopo Mounted Contingent
Jantze’s Native Horse
Kaffrarian Rifles, aka Kaffrarian Vanguard
Lonsdale’s Mounted Rifles, aka Lonsdale’s Horse
Mafunzi’s Mounted Natives
Natal Carbineers
Natal Horse (No 1 Troop - de Burgh; No 2 Troop – Cooke & No 3 Troop – Bettington)
Natal Hussars
Natal Light Horse
Natal Mounted Police
Natal Native Contingent
Natal Native Horse, formerly Natal Native Mounted Contingent
Natal Native Pioneers
Natal Volunteer Guides (Composite Unit)
Native Zulu Carriers
Newcastle Mounted Rifles
Newcastle Scouts
New Germany Rifles
Pietermaritzburg Rifles
Royal Durban Rifles
Shepstone’s Native Horse
Stanger Mounted Rifles
Teteleku’s Mounted Natives
Transvaal Rangers
Utrecht Native Levies
Victoria Mounted Rifles
Vos' Native Levies
Weenen Yeomanry
Wood’s Irregulars
Wood’s Scouts
Does anyone have any additions to these?
kwaJimu1879
Last edited by kwajimu1879 on Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:01 am; edited 3 times in total |
|
| |
90th
Posts : 10909 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 68 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Colonial Units Of The Zulu War. Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:48 am | |
| Hi Kwajimu. Once again the following from '' For God , Queen & Colony '' by Terry Sole . These were raised in the fight against Ceteswayo 1879. Amabomvu Mtd Natives , Fairlie's Swazi Police , Ixopo Mtd Rifles , Ixopo Native Cont , Maritzburg Rifles , Natal Native Stretcher Bearers , Newcastle Scouts , Vos's Native Levies , Utrecht Native Levies . Apologies Kwajimu if I've doubled up . cheers 90th. |
|
| |
impi
Posts : 2308 Join date : 2010-07-02 Age : 44
| Subject: Re: Colonial Units of the Zulu War Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:02 pm | |
| Pulleine's Rangers. Under the command of Brown. |
|
| |
kwajimu1879
Posts : 420 Join date : 2011-05-14
| Subject: Re: Colonial Units of the Zulu War Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:20 pm | |
| 90th,
I had Fairlie's Native Police down on a handwritten list but I didn't transfer to my computer.
I should have remembered the Ixopo boys as there's an engraving of them in 'The Graphic'.
The Pietermaritzburg Rifles and the 'Maritzburg Rifles are one & the same, the same with the amaBomvu Corps & the Amabomvu Mtd Natives.
Stretcher-bearers were men of the NNC, there's at least two engravings of them 'in action', one in the 'ILN' & one in 'The Graphic'
The Newcastle Scouts , Vos's Native Levies & Utrecht Native Levies are new ones to me.
Impi,
Pulleine's Rangers were a 9th Cape Frontier War unit, 1877-8, not a Zulu War unit, by 1879 Browne was in the NNC. With the disbandment of his unit in the aftermath of Isandlwana Browne would serve in Lonsdale's Mounted Rifles (Lonsdale's Horse).
kwaJimu1879
Last edited by kwajimu1879 on Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:52 pm; edited 1 time in total |
|
| |
1879graves
Posts : 3387 Join date : 2009-03-03 Location : Devon
| Subject: Re: Colonial Units of the Zulu War Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:18 pm | |
| Hi kwajimu1879
Can you edit/update your list (your first post) with the units that 90th has suggested?
|
|
| |
kwajimu1879
Posts : 420 Join date : 2011-05-14
| Subject: Re: Colonial Units of the Zulu War Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:50 pm | |
| Graves1879,
Have done.
90th,
I made a change re-Terry Sole's entry for the Ixopo troops, there's an 1879 reference to them being call the 'Ixopo Mounted Contingent' so I went for that.
kwaJimu1879 |
|
| |
littlehand
Posts : 7076 Join date : 2009-04-24 Age : 56 Location : Down South.
| Subject: Re: Colonial Units of the Zulu War Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:46 pm | |
| Schutte’s Corps (1879). This consisted of Transvaal Volunteers raised for the Zulu War. The commanding officer was Captain Schutte.
Eckersley’s Contingent (1879). This unit comprised Transvaal Natives raised by Mr Eckersley, RM, for service in the Zulu War and against Sekukuni. Its strength was 207.
|
|
| |
kwajimu1879
Posts : 420 Join date : 2011-05-14
| Subject: Re: Colonial Units of the Zulu War Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:16 pm | |
| Littlehand,
I take it you are quoting from Military History Journal - Vol 4 No 5 PROFILE OF AN ARMY: THE COLONIAL AND IMPERIAL FORCES OF THE ZULU WAR OF 1879 by S. Monick
Despite what is written there I can find no evidence of either of those to units taking part in the Zulu War, but I'll stand to be corrected. However, they did serve against Sekhukhune.
The Pretoria Horse were also raised in Transvaal for the Zulu War according to one of their number, Henry Rider Haggard but they didn't serve in it either.
kwaJimu1879 |
|
| |
littlehand
Posts : 7076 Join date : 2009-04-24 Age : 56 Location : Down South.
| Subject: Re: Colonial Units of the Zulu War Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:29 pm | |
| Thanks kwaJimu1879. Hopefully when we have exhausted all. We will have a definitive list. |
|
| |
littlehand
Posts : 7076 Join date : 2009-04-24 Age : 56 Location : Down South.
| Subject: Re: Colonial Units of the Zulu War Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:38 pm | |
| |
|
| |
kwajimu1879
Posts : 420 Join date : 2011-05-14
| Subject: Re: Colonial Units of the Zulu War Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:56 pm | |
| Littlehand,
That was just a generic name for all of the volunteer forces of the Colony of Natal.
kwaJimu1879 |
|
| |
littlehand
Posts : 7076 Join date : 2009-04-24 Age : 56 Location : Down South.
| Subject: Re: Colonial Units of the Zulu War Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:23 pm | |
| kwajimu1879 see what you think of this. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]Click on book top left hand side Scroll down to page 3 |
|
| |
kwajimu1879
Posts : 420 Join date : 2011-05-14
| Subject: Re: Colonial Units of the Zulu War Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:20 am | |
| Littlehand,
Or better still take the book off of the shelf behind me and look at it!
Ian Castle confirms Eckersley's & Schutte's units operated against the baPedi of Sekhukhune, not against King Cetshwayo and the Zulu.
Fairlie's unit took casualties in the Zulu War on two occasions in February 1879, so personally I'd disagree with their exemption. The name I have used for them is the one that appears in 'The London Gazette' recording their wounded.
So it looks like the only unit not mentioned now in the list is the New Germany Rifles. Original list updated and a minor grammatical change made.
kwaJimu1879 |
|
| |
littlehand
Posts : 7076 Join date : 2009-04-24 Age : 56 Location : Down South.
| Subject: Re: Colonial Units of the Zulu War Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:24 pm | |
| I was referring to the "Natal Volunteer Corps" They were disbanded after the Battle of Ulundi. So I’m assuming they took part in the Zulu War. (Could be wrong) |
|
| |
kwajimu1879
Posts : 420 Join date : 2011-05-14
| Subject: Re: Colonial Units of the Zulu War Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:50 pm | |
| Littlehand,
What is your source?
kwaJimu2879 |
|
| |
littlehand
Posts : 7076 Join date : 2009-04-24 Age : 56 Location : Down South.
| Subject: Re: Colonial Units of the Zulu War Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:14 pm | |
| It’s was in the link i posted yesterday. I maybe reading it incorrectly. That’s why I ask what you thought. Anyway here it is underlined in red. Is it saying they took part in the Battle of Ulundi or they disbanded after Ulundi, but didn’t take part. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] |
|
| |
kwajimu1879
Posts : 420 Join date : 2011-05-14
| Subject: Re: Colonial Units of the Zulu War Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:43 pm | |
| Littlehand,
It is a term relating to all the volunteer units of the Colony of Natal, once the job was done at Ulundi they were stood down and return to normal jobs etc.
If you have got a copy of 'The Narrative of Field Operations...' look at Appendix D under the dates 'Raised' & 'Disbanded' you'll find some were kept in the field for longer than others.
kwaJimu1879 |
|
| |
Neil Bates
Posts : 15 Join date : 2010-06-17
| Subject: Re: Colonial Units of the Zulu War Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:23 pm | |
| Further to this link I'm interested in the role of Ferreira's Horse in the Zulu War, as I possess a medal to one of their troopers (R. Kemp). They are excluded from this book but were apparently transferred from Rowland's column to Wood's in Feb/March 79 (South African Military History Journal vol4 no5). Smith Dorrien specifically mentions them as being under the command of Buller on the reconnaissance before Ulundi. They are also mentioned as being attached to Villier's Force in dealing with the surrender of large groups of Zulus in the mountains overlooking the Pongola river in July. I'd be grateful for any further information. Neil |
|
| |
littlehand
Posts : 7076 Join date : 2009-04-24 Age : 56 Location : Down South.
| Subject: Re: Colonial Units of the Zulu War Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:24 pm | |
| “The Narrative of Field Operations”. Don't have a copy. But thanks for explanation. |
|
| |
Mr Greaves
Posts : 747 Join date : 2009-10-18
| Subject: Re: Colonial Units of the Zulu War Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:54 pm | |
| Cooke's Horse Officers & Men numbered 78 (Part of the First Division) Under General Crealock's Lower Tugela Command.
Grey Town District Colonial Volunteers .Officers & Men numbered 139 ( Second Division (General Newidgate's)
|
|
| |
90th
Posts : 10909 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 68 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Colonial Units Of The Zulu War. Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:00 am | |
| Hi Neil . You probably know this anyway but I can tell you Kemp's christian name was Robert , and his Medal is entitled to the 1879 Clasp . cheers 90th. |
|
| |
kwajimu1879
Posts : 420 Join date : 2011-05-14
| Subject: Re: Colonial Units of the Zulu War Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:10 am | |
| Mr. Greaves, Cooke's Horse was the local name for No. 2 Troop of the Natal Horse, in the same way No. 3 Troop was referred to as Bettington's Horse. All three troops of the Natal Horse were formed from the European officers & nco's of the disbanded 3rd Regiment of the NNC in February 1879. As to - Quote :
- Grey Town District Colonial Volunteers .Officers & Men numbered 139 ( Second Division (General Newidgate's)
I've never heard them what is the source for them? Greytown was part of the Msinga Magistracy and in the recruiting area of the Buffalo Border Guard. 139 men seems an awful lot of a small place like Greytown when cities suchas Pietermaritzburg and Durban provided alot less. kwaJimu1879 |
|
| |
Mr Greaves
Posts : 747 Join date : 2009-10-18
| Subject: Re: Colonial Units of the Zulu War Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:38 am | |
| " In Zululand with the British Army" Norris- Newman.
The arrival of the reinforcement section.
|
|
| |
kwajimu1879
Posts : 420 Join date : 2011-05-14
| Subject: Re: Colonial Units of the Zulu War Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:00 am | |
| Not only do they make it into Norris Newman, they even make into G A Henty's 'Young Colonists' by virtue of the fact Henty has ripped off Norris Newman list verbatim.
I'll add them to my list.
Odd that Laband & Thompson in 'The Buffalo Border 1879' don't warrant them a mention at all, despite discussing the colonial defence units in the area.
Thanks,
kwaJimu1879 |
|
| |
90th
Posts : 10909 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 68 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Colonial Units Of The Zulu War. Fri Jul 15, 2011 2:49 am | |
| Hi Kwajimu. Also odd that there is no mention of them in the medal roll , which makes me think they have gone by another name possibly ?. cheers 90th. |
|
| |
Mr Greaves
Posts : 747 Join date : 2009-10-18
| Subject: Re: Colonial Units of the Zulu War Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:17 am | |
| It could be that quite a few of these units started under one name and ended up as part of another. Newman might have know them as he states in his book. So how far do we going excluding units because they ended up being called something else. |
|
| |
old historian2
Posts : 1093 Join date : 2009-01-14 Location : East London
| Subject: Re: Colonial Units of the Zulu War Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:35 pm | |
| What about this unit. "Coleraine volunteers" |
|
| |
littlehand
Posts : 7076 Join date : 2009-04-24 Age : 56 Location : Down South.
| Subject: Re: Colonial Units of the Zulu War Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:56 pm | |
| "After 1850 many Coleraine volunteers continued to serve the Crown during Britain’s conflicts. That included the Crimean War in 1855. After the Crimean War a Russian cannon was presented to the town in 1859 to mark the contribution made by the Coleraine volunteers. Coleraine volunteers were also well represented during the Zulu War in 1879, the Egypt War in 1882, the first Boer War 1881 and the second Boer War in 1899-1902."
Old H. I don't think they were know as the Coleraine Volunteers. |
|
| |
90th
Posts : 10909 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 68 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Colonial Units Of The Zulu War. Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:47 am | |
| Hi Oh2. Do you have any other info concerning the Coleraine Volunteers ??. Cant say I've heard of them . Cheers 90th. |
|
| |
kwajimu1879
Posts : 420 Join date : 2011-05-14
| Subject: Re: Colonial Units of the Zulu War Tue Jul 19, 2011 6:25 pm | |
| 90th, Wild Northern Irishmen looking for a fight! See [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]kwaJimu1879 |
|
| |
90th
Posts : 10909 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 68 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Colonial Units Of The Zulu War. Wed Jul 20, 2011 4:26 am | |
| Hi Kwajimu1879. Thanks for the link . cheers 90th. |
|
| |
Dave
Posts : 1603 Join date : 2009-09-21
| Subject: Re: Colonial Units of the Zulu War Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:35 pm | |
| Raaf's Horse. Can't see it on the list. Have I missed it. |
|
| |
ADMIN
Posts : 4358 Join date : 2008-11-01 Age : 65 Location : KENT
| Subject: Re: Colonial Units of the Zulu War Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:29 pm | |
| Dave they came under "Transvaal Rangers" |
|
| |
| Colonial Units of the Zulu War | |
|