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![Winchester Repeating Arms Company. Repeating Rifles 1873 Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Winchester Repeating Arms Company. Repeating Rifles 1873 Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:17 pm | |
| Winchester Model 1873 rifle
"The Gun that Won the West" Type Rifle Place of origin United States I wasn't aware that repeating rifles were used as early as 1873, Were the British experimenting with repeating rifles in the 1800s. They would have been very useful in the Zulu War.
Service history Used by United States Production history Designed 1873 Manufacturer Winchester Repeating Arms Company Produced 1873–1919 Number built c.720,000 Variants Full-stocked "Musket", Carbine, Sporting model Specifications Weight 9.5lb (4.3kg) Length 49.3in (125.2cm) Barrel length 30in (76.2cm) Caliber .44-40 Winchester, .38-40 Winchester, .32-20 Winchester, .22 rimfire Action Lever-action Feed system 15 round tube magazine Sights Graduated rear sights, Fixed-post front sights |
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| During the American Civil War in the 1860s, various repeating rifles were used. Strangely, during the Indian Campaign the cavalry were issued single-shot carbines, against many indians who had acquired the former repeaters. That didn't help Gen. Custer and his men at Little Bighorn in 1876 - outnumbered and outgunned by hostiles armed with better weaponry. I think it had to do with cost, etc., in the British army back then, but also with repeaters you stand the chance of wasted ammo, rather than controlled volley-fire by ranks armed with single-shot rifles. |
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- but also with repeaters you stand the chance of wasted ammo, rather than controlled volley-fire by ranks armed with single-shot rifles.
20,000 rounds were fired at RD. 500 dead or there abouts. |
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| CTSG, yes that was some amount of ammo used wasn't it ? ![scratch](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_scratch.png) Good job they had enough or they'd have been using the bayonet a great deal more than they did. I wonder, would they have managed to hold the post with much less ammo availability ? |
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| I did read somewhere, that the ammunition supply at RD was quite dire near the end of the Battle. And if another attack had been launched by the Zulu's R.D would have fallen. (Thanks what I read) |
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![Winchester Repeating Arms Company. Repeating Rifles 1873 Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Winchester Repeating Arms Company. Repeating Rifles 1873 Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:12 pm | |
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- I did read somewhere, that the ammunition supply at RD was quite dire near the end of the Battle
Dave it could have been here. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] |
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| Each man had around 70 rounds on him and they had aroud a box and a half left in reserve. This was observed by Chard himself.
The Zulu casulties where estimated by a number of authors at around 1,000 killed and wounded
600 dead and 400 wounded
Mike Snook worked out they could last for around another 2 hours if they fired undestrict control and didnt blaze away.
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