Latest topics | » Did Ntishingwayo really not know Lord C wasn't at home Tue Nov 19, 2024 10:05 am by Tig Van Milcroft » Dr. A. Ralph BusbySun Nov 17, 2024 11:25 pm by Julian Whybra » Lieutenant M.G. Wales, 1st Natal Native ContingentSat Nov 16, 2024 12:32 pm by Matthew Turl » Colonel Edward William Bray, 2nd/4th Regt.Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:55 pm by Julian Whybra » Royal Marine Light Infantry, ChathamThu Nov 14, 2024 7:57 pm by Petty Officer Tom » H.M.S. ForesterThu Nov 14, 2024 4:07 pm by johnex » Samuel PoppleWed Nov 13, 2024 8:43 am by STEPHEN JAMES » Studies in the Zulu War volume VI now availableSat Nov 09, 2024 6:38 pm by Julian Whybra » Colonel Charles Knight PearsonFri Nov 08, 2024 5:56 pm by LincolnJDH » Grave of Henry SpaldingThu Nov 07, 2024 8:10 pm by 1879graves » John West at KambulaThu Nov 07, 2024 5:25 pm by MKalny15 » Private Frederick Evans 2/24thSun Nov 03, 2024 8:12 pm by Dash » How to find medal entitlement CokerSun Nov 03, 2024 10:51 am by Kev T » Isandlwana Casualty - McCathie/McCarthySat Nov 02, 2024 1:40 pm by Julian Whybra » William Jones CommentFri Nov 01, 2024 6:07 pm by Eddie » Brother of Lt YoungFri Nov 01, 2024 5:13 pm by Eddie » Frederick Marsh - HMS TenedosFri Nov 01, 2024 9:48 am by lydenburg » Mr Spiers KIA iSandlwana ?Fri Nov 01, 2024 7:50 am by Julian Whybra » Isandhlwana unaccounted for casualtiesFri Nov 01, 2024 7:48 am by Julian Whybra » Thrupps report to Surgeon General Wolfies Thu Oct 31, 2024 12:32 pm by Julian Whybra » Absence of Vereker from Snook's BookFri Oct 25, 2024 10:59 pm by Julian Whybra » Another Actor related to the Degacher-Hitchcock familyMon Oct 21, 2024 1:07 pm by Stefaan » No. 799 George Williams and his son-in-law No. 243 Thomas NewmanSat Oct 19, 2024 12:36 pm by Dash » Alphonse de Neuville- Painting the Defence of Rorke's DriftFri Oct 18, 2024 8:34 am by Stefaan » Studies in the Zulu War volumesWed Oct 16, 2024 3:26 pm by Julian Whybra » Martini Henry carbine IC1 markingsMon Oct 14, 2024 10:48 pm by Parkerbloggs » James Conner 1879 claspMon Oct 14, 2024 7:12 pm by Kenny » 80th REG of Foot (Staffords)Sun Oct 13, 2024 9:07 pm by shadeswolf » Frontier Light Horse uniformSun Oct 13, 2024 8:12 pm by Schlaumeier » Gelsthorpe, G. 1374 Private 1/24th / Scott, Sidney W. 521 Private 1/24thSun Oct 13, 2024 1:00 pm by Dash » A Bullet BibleSat Oct 12, 2024 8:33 am by Julian Whybra » Brothers SearsFri Oct 11, 2024 7:17 pm by Eddie » Zulu War Medal MHS TamarFri Oct 11, 2024 3:48 pm by philip c » Ford Park Cemetery, Plymouth.Tue Oct 08, 2024 4:15 pm by rai » Shipping - transport in the AZWSun Oct 06, 2024 10:47 pm by Bill8183 |
November 2024 | Mon | Tue | Wed | Thu | Fri | Sat | Sun |
---|
| | | | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | | Calendar |
|
Top posting users this month | |
New topics | » Dr. A. Ralph BusbySat Nov 16, 2024 11:36 am by Julian Whybra » Colonel Edward William Bray, 2nd/4th Regt.Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:49 pm by John Young » Samuel PoppleTue Nov 12, 2024 3:36 pm by STEPHEN JAMES » Colonel Charles Knight PearsonFri Nov 08, 2024 5:56 pm by LincolnJDH » John West at KambulaMon Nov 04, 2024 11:54 pm by MKalny15 » How to find medal entitlement CokerFri Nov 01, 2024 9:32 am by Kev T » Frederick Marsh - HMS TenedosThu Oct 31, 2024 1:42 pm by lydenburg » Did Ntishingwayo really not know Lord C wasn't at home Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:18 am by SRB1965 » Thrupps report to Surgeon General Wolfies Sun Oct 27, 2024 11:32 am by SRB1965 |
Zero tolerance to harassment and bullying. |
Due to recent events on this forum, we have now imposed a zero tolerance to harassment and bullying. All reports will be treated seriously, and will lead to a permanent ban of both membership and IP address.
Any member blatantly corresponding in a deliberate and provoking manner will be removed from the forum as quickly as possible after the event.
If any members are being harassed behind the scenes PM facility by any member/s here at 1879zuluwar.com please do not hesitate to forward the offending text.
We are all here to communicate and enjoy the various discussions and information on the Anglo Zulu War of 1879. Opinions will vary, you will agree and disagree with one another, we will have debates, and so it goes.
There is no excuse for harassment or bullying of anyone by another person on this site.
The above applies to the main frame areas of the forum.
The ring which is the last section on the forum, is available to those members who wish to partake in slagging matches. That section cannot be viewed by guests and only viewed by members that wish to do so. |
Fair Use Notice | Fair use notice.
This website may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not been specifically authorised by the copyright owner.
We are making such material and images are available in our efforts to advance the understanding of the “Anglo Zulu War of 1879. For educational & recreational purposes.
We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material, as provided for in UK copyright law. The information is purely for educational and research purposes only. No profit is made from any part of this website.
If you hold the copyright on any material on the site, or material refers to you, and you would like it to be removed, please let us know and we will work with you to reach a resolution. |
|
| Uniforms Of The 3/60th Rifles | |
| | Author | Message |
---|
Guest Guest
| Subject: Uniforms Of The 3/60th Rifles Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:45 pm | |
| Recently, my attention was drawn to this regiment and I couldn't help but feel that its uniform was of a more practical colouring (rifle green and black) than the red jackets of the line infantry, especially in the African terrain, with all its greenery. In Elite's book 'The British Forces In Zululand 1879' the 3/60 Rifles uniform was termed 'extremely sombre', but if I had been in Zululand, I'd have been more than happy to wear it compared to the highly-visible red of the infantry. Surely, it would have made more sense in that environment ? |
| | | 90th
Posts : 10909 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 68 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Uniforms Of The 3 /60th Rifles Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:27 pm | |
| Hi ColinJ. Would have made much more sense , but as we now Know ' Sense ' wasnt high on the priority lists of the Victorian Era Armies . cheers 90th. |
| | | Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Uniforms Of The 3/60th Rifles Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:04 pm | |
| 90th, true. Yes, this uniform would have been practical for the greenery in Africa, and as eventually happened in the British army, khaki for desert areas, much like today. You have to wonder why the red tunics stayed so long, as where could they actually be considered as practical camouflage ? - Mars ! (the red planet) |
| | | Guest Guest
| Subject: Uniforms Of The 3/60th Rifles Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:59 pm | |
| good evening
Given the types of deployments of the time,.. The tactics of the time,,. The black powder used for weapons of the time,,. And especially the type of opponents in the Colonial wars that can not be surprised,..
The color of the uniform did not matter, it was just a matter of tradition to have a particular color of uniform in a regiment ...
And above all for the regiment spirit , the "esprit de corps", like all small differences uniformology for 13 (I do not count the 3 / 60 rifles and 91 st Foot with uniforms very special) of the 15 infantry battalions who served in Zululand;... Note that the british infantry began to wear red uniforms in the seventeenth century with the new model army at the time because it was the color the less expensive ...
And later the red color was abandoned because it had become the most expensive color ...
As for the color of the uniform of the rifles, as it was in bad qualitée, it turned black, the uniform of some colonial troops, also changed the color for the same reason, for example those of the Natal mounted police, which was turning to brown...
Cheers
Pascal
|
| | | Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Uniforms Of The 3/60th Rifles Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:07 pm | |
| Pascal, I do know of the 95th Rifles from the Napoleonic era (thanks to the Sharpe series) who wore a greenish uniform, but never really researched them to see if they also operated as line infantry, as in, companies formed into ranks and volley-firing on the battlefield, or were mostly deployed as 'chosen men' operating as sharpshooters in advance of the main body, concealed in cover or deployed as skirmishers. |
| | | littlehand
Posts : 7076 Join date : 2009-04-24 Age : 56 Location : Down South.
| Subject: Re: Uniforms Of The 3/60th Rifles Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:57 pm | |
| 3rd battalion 60th Kings Royal Rifles 1879 [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] |
| | | Guest Guest
| Subject: 3/60 th Rifle Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:48 am | |
| Hello Colin
As long as the firearms have a low rate of fire and a small range, rifles were sharpshooter /skirmishers is set ...
For their weapons dispute is that of the infantry ...
They lose this advantage when the infantry is equipped with a majority of rifles just before the Crimean War ...
In Zululand, all the infantry in the same gun, only the bayonets of the rifles are different, a sword bayonet of the type used by the NCO of the other unit of infantry, the firepower is the same for everyone and if the rifles retain their green uniforms, it's just a tradition ...
For the rest,the total of the infantry , after the Crimean War, from the revolt of the sepoys , as also entrained by complet battalions to fight in open order, look Isandhlwana and also on the river inyezane the same day ...The infantry is in open order...
But at the time of Bonaparte the dog , the rifles have rifled carbines that fired twice, well beyond the muskets (but half as fast) so they can sometimes fight in open order, ...
However their bayonets are long enough that the gun with the bayonets, their weapons have the same length as a musket with its bayonet , so they could get a square with the red coats in close order ... As in Waterloo ...
At Waterloo, the rifles that defend "sabliere" are piled on each other and not in open order ...
Cheers
Pascal |
| | | | Uniforms Of The 3/60th Rifles | |
|
Similar topics | |
|
| Permissions in this forum: | You cannot reply to topics in this forum
| |
| |
| |