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littlehand
Posts : 7076 Join date : 2009-04-24 Age : 56 Location : Down South.
| Subject: Re: Mystery Photo? Can you put a name to this face. Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:01 pm | |
| Thanks Pete. |
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Posts : 4358 Join date : 2008-11-01 Age : 65 Location : KENT
| Subject: Re: Mystery Photo? Can you put a name to this face. Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:02 pm | |
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| | | Chelmsfordthescapegoat
Posts : 2593 Join date : 2009-04-24
| Subject: Re: Mystery Photo? Can you put a name to this face. Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:23 pm | |
| LH Check e-mail. I'm happy to say it's Younghusband!! |
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| Subject: Re: Mystery Photo? Can you put a name to this face. Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:36 pm | |
| i said so from the off, think i gave some one food for thought, well done littlehand. |
| | | sas1
Posts : 627 Join date : 2009-01-20 Age : 46
| Subject: Re: Mystery Photo? Can you put a name to this face. Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:34 pm | |
| Younghusband Littlehand sent you a PM! |
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| Subject: Re: Mystery Photo? Can you put a name to this face. Sat Oct 19, 2013 12:08 am | |
| JY over to you . |
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| Subject: Re: Mystery Photo? Can you put a name to this face. Sat Oct 19, 2013 12:48 am | |
| piers morgan . |
| | | John
Posts : 2558 Join date : 2009-04-06 Age : 62 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: Mystery Photo? Can you put a name to this face. Sat Oct 19, 2013 2:36 pm | |
| LH amazing. The mouth changes slightly. But it's the eyes for me that confirms its Younghusband! |
| | | old historian2
Posts : 1093 Join date : 2009-01-14 Location : East London
| Subject: Re: Mystery Photo? Can you put a name to this face. Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:24 pm | |
| Never have I see the likes of that before. I'm going with Younghusband. |
| | | John Young
Posts : 3315 Join date : 2013-09-08 Age : 68 Location : Слава Україні! Героям слава!
| Subject: Re: Mystery Photo? Can you put a name to this face. Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:59 am | |
| Les,
It was off to Ibiza for a retirement do.
Littlehand,
Back now and still unconvinced, no I don't have an IPad.
Can no-one see the eyes are of a totally different colour?
In all the photographs I have seen of Younghusband he has very dark eyes, and very dark skin. I would surmise inherited from his mother who was of Portuguese origin but raised in India. Her family appears to have links in Goa and Calcutta.
There's an excellent photograph of Younghusband in his Lieutenant's uniform reproduced in The Silver Wreath facing page 48. I would suggest that those who are convinced that Isandula's photograph is Younghusband to take a look at that photograph and tell me what colour eyes they think Reginald Younghusband had?
Nor is it the same uniform in both photographs, that is not to say he didn't have two full dress tunics, but that would have been a rather unnecessary expense for a Lieutenant.
I did query with you earlier ...Younger in which photograph the Malkin photograph or the MacKinnon & Shadbolt photograph? But you haven't responded to the question.
Kenny,
I don't know what access you have to the photographs at Brecon, but if Bill permits that one to be shown on here it would settle things for me.
Isandula, (RB)
Any joy with buttons & buckles? If not can you please just do a close-up on the eyes of Liverpool photograph?
Thanks,
JY
Last edited by John Young on Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:40 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Wrong spelling! Late night!) |
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| Subject: Re: Mystery Photo? Can you put a name to this face. Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:34 am | |
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| | | John Young
Posts : 3315 Join date : 2013-09-08 Age : 68 Location : Слава Україні! Героям слава!
| Subject: Re: Mystery Photo? Can you put a name to this face. Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:41 am | |
| Les,
Based on that image, what colour eyes do you think he had?
JY |
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| Subject: Re: Mystery Photo? Can you put a name to this face. Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:02 am | |
| Hi John, its not the eyes only! i think your spot on re skin type. the other guy now i look more closely has that pasty white complexion, and if they were both stood in front of us today we would be looking at different individuals.based on the image and the more i do i think YH has a distinct Mediterranean appearance. |
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| Subject: Re: Mystery Photo? Can you put a name to this face. Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:13 am | |
| soz JY meant to say, YH eyes would definitely have been Brown in TSW its plain as day! dark eyes staring straight into the camera. xhosa |
| | | John Young
Posts : 3315 Join date : 2013-09-08 Age : 68 Location : Слава Україні! Героям слава!
| Subject: Re: Mystery Photo? Can you put a name to this face. Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:36 am | |
| Les,
I glad I'm not the only one seeing brown eyes and a dark complexion, as opposed to blue eyes and a pasty, pale complexion!
JY |
| | | Kenny
Posts : 615 Join date : 2013-05-07 Location : Brecon
| Subject: Re: Mystery Photo? Can you put a name to this face. Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:41 am | |
| John
If it helps - Capt RY departed Southampton aboard the Tenton with a draft of one sergeant and 80 soldiers on 15th May 1876 to join 1/24th (from WO25/3509). |
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| Subject: Re: Mystery Photo? Can you put a name to this face. Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:52 am | |
| yeah JY, got that. but it is a good looky likey, so who is he?. littlehand. nice software:D. but the eyes...complexion. . im interested in your thoughts on this matter. xhosa |
| | | littlehand
Posts : 7076 Join date : 2009-04-24 Age : 56 Location : Down South.
| Subject: Re: Mystery Photo? Can you put a name to this face. Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:00 pm | |
| Well the fact, the younger photo was probably taken in England, so allow for English climate. The other photo was taken many years later and possibly in a hot climate. So you have to take into account Age & Climate.
Regarding the colour of eyes is that relevant as is on black and white images. For me it’s the shape of the eyes. Look at the left eye, the retina seems to be higher than the right on both photos. |
| | | John Young
Posts : 3315 Join date : 2013-09-08 Age : 68 Location : Слава Україні! Героям слава!
| Subject: Re: Mystery Photo? Can you put a name to this face. Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:11 pm | |
| Littlehand,
His irises are not going to change colour even if it photographed sepia-tone. In all the identified photographs of Younghusband he has brown eyes. Whereas in Isandula's photograph the sitter has pale eyes - blue/grey.
If as you suggest that photograph depicts a younger man, it could only date from 1874 until 1876, which puts Younghusband aged between 30 and 32 years of age, yet when he was photographed in 1871, between three and five years earlier, he doesn't look too different to the well-known published photograph of him.
The photograph in The Silver Wreath also depicts him as a Lieutenant, and there is no way that I am seeing the same man in that photograph that appears in Isandula's Liverpool photograph.
Just my thoughts on the subject.
Kenny,
Thanks for that I have seen the copies, for Tenton read Teuton.
Isandula,
Anything yet?
Regards,
JY |
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| Subject: Re: Mystery Photo? Can you put a name to this face. Mon Oct 21, 2013 7:03 pm | |
| i'm just assuming that its a carte de visit or that type,in which case the resolution could be good to outstanding. xhosa |
| | | impi
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| Subject: Re: Mystery Photo? Can you put a name to this face. Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:43 pm | |
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| | | impi
Posts : 2308 Join date : 2010-07-02 Age : 44
| Subject: Re: Mystery Photo? Can you put a name to this face. Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:47 pm | |
| Looking at all of the photographs in this thread, There is something not quite right with his left eye, as LH points out. Looks like some sort of abnormality. |
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| Subject: Re: Mystery Photo? Can you put a name to this face. Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:15 pm | |
| Looking at all of the photographs in this thread, There is something not quite right with his left eye, as LH points out. Looks like some sort of abnormality.
impi, its a fault on the image. not..his eye.its not my image. |
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| Subject: Re: Mystery Photo? Can you put a name to this face. Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:53 pm | |
| and you said ' all of the images ' .err no! stop reaching and keep it real. impi.get get a grip.barrack room lawyer, snap.so am i. but i take as my ace up the sleeve. rodger the dodger..comic.google him, and then cut and paste. |
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