Zulu War Brain teaser

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Just to liven things up---can anyone identify the Zulu War veteran in this Victorian group? This could be tough. A clue each day---
Today's clue----1) in mufti

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Hi Isandula,

What a bunch of dudes!.
Reminds me of the Randlords, ie Barney Barnato and his illustrious well connected thugs.
My private joke.
Keep guessing.

regards

barry

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Yes, could be a minor connection there but wrong time period.

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Hi Isandula,

Wot,...... no Barnato, Fitzpatrick (Percy), Phillips, Rhodes ( CJ's brother), Alfred Beit, Jamison, etc

barry

Subject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:59 pm

Staff College group. 1870 or 1871.

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JB, you are colder than Barry, me thinks.

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Hi Isandula,

Period maybe +10-12 years post Isandlwana?
Horace Smith Dorien anywhere there?.

regards

barry

Subject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:24 am

Barry,

Just as a heads-up the Rifle Brigade officer is wearing a pre-1881 uniform, to help your time-range.

Regards,

John Y.

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Barry, Good try, but not Horace S-D, and, JB, cool uniform on RB officer. Today's clue:

Clue 1--in mufti
Clue 2--with bowler

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Wilfred Heaton 24th.?

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xhosa2000, Which guy? Good try, but sorry not WH.

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Isandula..top row second from the right looking reflective.. Grrrr!
this is bugging.

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my other guess is Clements left second row.

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Sorry, xhosa2000, a more enlightening clue tomorrow.

Subject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser Sun Feb 12, 2017 4:39 pm

That's a great photo Isandula. As to identifying any of them not a clue. Can see this one going on for sometime.

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littlehand, I can make it really hard, but therein lies the challenge. Tomorrow's clue ought to put you on it if you can pick the right guy out.

Subject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser Sun Feb 12, 2017 6:37 pm

White Cliffs of Dover?

Subject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser Sun Feb 12, 2017 6:43 pm

Ernest Henry Buller.

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JB, you're getting colder. Tomorrow's clue will make you a happy man!

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Sub Inspector Philips, NMP?

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Sorry, Frederic, not a colonial.

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Isandula,
Photography taken during the Transvaal War?

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Not sure about that one, Frederic.

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Isandula,
Officer belonged either 58th Regiment, either 3/60 Rifles, either 1st Dragoon Guards, either 2/21th Regiment?

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Nein, Frederic--tomorrow's clue will put you on the right track, no doubt

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Clue 1--in mufti
Clue 2--with bowler
Clue 3--With the right daddy, it's easy to get a plum position.

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It is therefore not a regiment involved both in the Zulu war and the Transvaal war
About you clue 3: Lysons or Beresford?

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An Officer with "special duty" during the Zulu war.

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Does he have a knobkerry with him ?

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No, Frederic, not Lysons or Beresford--but probably "yes" to the second query. John, if he has a knobbie with him in the photo, then it must be a miniature in his pocket.

Clue 1--in mufti
Clue 2--with bowler
Clue 3--With the right daddy, it's easy to get a plum position.
Clue 4--By all accounts, he was an "Honourable" man.

Subject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:05 am

B.C.A. Frere.

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EUREKA!!! Well done, JB, you are correct!!!! The Honourable Bartle Compton Arthur Frere, Rifle Brigade and on Chelmsford's staff, and.....son of the High Commissioner of South Africa, Sir Bartle Frere. Now which one is he in the group photo?
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Subject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:28 am

RB,

Centre row right.

Photographed at the White Cliffs of Dover, when his battalion was garrisoned at The Citadel Barracks.

JB

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Spot on, JB--middle row, far right. Note all the titles on these rakes.

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Well done JY.. fiendishly difficult. Shocked

Subject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:20 pm

John you beat me to it! Just.

Subject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:25 pm

I think John was referring to this, when he said Knobkerry!

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